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Old 07-03-2008, 08:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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July 4th Topic: The Top 10 American Made Vehicles By Content

Link: http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....ory=amMade0707

The Cars.com American-Made Index

By Kelsey Mays, Cars.com

What Are the Top American-Made Cars?

Cars.com's American-Made Index rates vehicles built and bought in the U.S. Factors include sales, where the car's parts are made and whether the car is assembled in the U.S. Models that have been discontinued are disqualified, as are those with a domestic-parts content rating below 75 percent.

Cars.com's American-Made Index highlights the cars that are built here, have the highest amount of domestic parts, and are bought in the largest numbers by Americans.

There are a few options for determining a car's domestic-parts content. We went with the figure that appears alongside the window sticker of new cars as a result of the American Automobile Labeling Act, enacted in 1994. The AALA mandates that virtually every new car display the percentage, by cost, of its parts that originated in the U.S. and Canada. We deemed cars with a domestic-parts content rating of 75 percent or higher eligible for the index.

For cars that passed that test, we determined which were built in the U.S., and then considered how well they sold to arrive at our rankings. One last consideration was that the cars on the index need to be sticking around for the foreseeable future. If discontinuation is imminent, that means no autoworkers will be employed building it down the road, and it's disqualified.

Rankings:

1. Ford F-150
2. Toyota Camry
3. Chevrolet Silverado 1500
4. Chevrolet Cobalt
5. Ford Focus
6. Toyota Sienna
7. Chevrolet Malibu
8. Pontiac G6
9. Ford Escape
10. Toyota Tundra

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Link: http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....ory=amMade0707

The Cars.com American-Made Index

By Kelsey Mays, Cars.com

What Are the Top American-Made Cars?

Cars.com's American-Made Index rates vehicles built and bought in the U.S. Factors include sales, where the car's parts are made and whether the car is assembled in the U.S. Models that have been discontinued are disqualified, as are those with a domestic-parts content rating below 75 percent.

Cars.com's American-Made Index highlights the cars that are built here, have the highest amount of domestic parts, and are bought in the largest numbers by Americans.

There are a few options for determining a car's domestic-parts content. We went with the figure that appears alongside the window sticker of new cars as a result of the American Automobile Labeling Act, enacted in 1994. The AALA mandates that virtually every new car display the percentage, by cost, of its parts that originated in the U.S. and Canada. We deemed cars with a domestic-parts content rating of 75 percent or higher eligible for the index.

For cars that passed that test, we determined which were built in the U.S., and then considered how well they sold to arrive at our rankings. One last consideration was that the cars on the index need to be sticking around for the foreseeable future. If discontinuation is imminent, that means no autoworkers will be employed building it down the road, and it's disqualified.

Rankings:

1. Ford F-150
2. Toyota Camry
3. Chevrolet Silverado 1500
4. Chevrolet Cobalt
5. Ford Focus
6. Toyota Sienna
7. Chevrolet Malibu
8. Pontiac G6
9. Ford Escape
10. Toyota Tundra

Full article at link.


Why should sales figures be used in this ranking? What does that have to do with being "American made."

I think that parts content measure is the most relevant thing. And in that, GM typically scores best. I think the Impala and Grand Prix and possibly the Lucerne are up over 90% domestic content.
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Re: July 4th Topic: The Top 10 American Made Vehicles By Content

I remember seeing Mercury models high on this list some time ago.
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They do this list every year, pretty cool deal.
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Re: July 4th Topic: The Top 10 American Made Vehicles By Content

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Why should sales figures be used in this ranking? What does that have to do with being "American made."
Well I think it's because if the car is 100% American parts, but sells 10,000 units, but another car is 85% and sells 250,000 units, the one with less content is actually supporting more American manufacturing. I'd like to see their formula, though.

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I think that parts content measure is the most relevant thing. And in that, GM typically scores best. I think the Impala and Grand Prix and possibly the Lucerne are up over 90% domestic content.
I think you mean the Buick LaCrosse/Allure. That is the Buick W-body. The W-bodies are 90% domestic content and the Lucerne is 85%.
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Ah, yes the good old American made Camry....just like American Pie.

I wonder where the profits go

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Looks like another article writen by PR departments.

That sales are included throws the entire list into the garbage.

In other words, some Toyota sales hack will print this nonsense so they can sell another POS Camry to some rube. And that's more than likely the source of this trash.
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Looks like another article writen by PR departments.

That sales are included throws the entire list into the garbage.
How do you figure?
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Re: July 4th Topic: The Top 10 American Made Vehicles By Content

I recall when I bought my '01 Grand Prix, the North American content was something like 97%. It was made in Kansas City I believe back then.

I don't see why they would use sales figures either. And aren't some Camry's made in Japan also? It would be possible to buy one with a much lower American content.
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Re: July 4th Topic: The Top 10 American Made Vehicles By Content

The only way to accurately measure true domestic content is to establish: -

1. Where the ownership and control is located.

2. Where design and engineering has taken place.

3. Where the vehicles is finally assembled.

4. The percentage value of American-made (not merely assembled) components.

Then, we could have a meaningful index of "American-ness". It'd be too much like hard work for journalists, though . . . . and no, there wouldn't be any Toyotas on the list.
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Why should sales figures be used in this ranking? What does that have to do with being "American made."
Answer: Nothing

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Ah, yes the good old American made Camry....just like American Pie.

I wonder where the profits go
This post should be printed (with picture) and handed out to all those driving Japanese vehicles to watch July 4th festivities.

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Looks like another article writen by PR departments.

That sales are included throws the entire list into the garbage.

In other words, some Toyota sales hack will print this nonsense so they can sell another POS Camry to some rube. And that's more than likely the source of this trash.
Yes. More truth. This is utter PR spin and a steaming pile of crap. It's like having a list of the tallest people in the world based on their income. It is a biased article that should just state the percents of the highest American made content. PERIOD!!!
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Looks like another article writen by PR departments.



In other words, some Toyota sales hack will print this nonsense so they can sell another POS Camry to some rube. And that's more than likely the source of this trash.
Exactly.

An advertorial for the 4th - for Toyota.

The trick is to 'count' Canadian parts and assembled vehicles the same as Mexican thru Japanese - as imported.

That's the real list that matters - Canadian/American - that's the best counter to this - along with the short explanation as to why that is so and why that is required for legitimacy .

This list is ' list pornography' - with the Camry,Sienna, and Tundra on here considering the destruction Toyota has brought to the USA.

I suppose another way to legitimately knock the Camry etc off this list would be to eliminate them on the basis of a slight revision

'AMERICAN MADE - with no illegal sweatshop labor and human trafficking'.

Put both concepts together - that's the best list possible.

I guess CARS hasn't read the report.
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Why should sales figures be used in this ranking? What does that have to do with being "American made."

I think that parts content measure is the most relevant thing. And in that, GM typically scores best. I think the Impala and Grand Prix and possibly the Lucerne are up over 90% domestic content.
So they can get Toyota up in there and make Toyota owners feel good about themselves, no doubt.
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Ah, yes the good old American made Camry....just like American Pie.

I wonder where the profits go

And also ...how about the their suppilers...*** transplants set up by them over here...paying sub standard wages...getting tax abatements...to operate . Wheres those profits going? They sure have alot of Americans fooled.
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And also ...how about the their suppilers...*** transplants set up by them over here...paying sub standard wages...getting tax abatements...to operate . Wheres those profits going? They sure have alot of Americans fooled.
OH I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SAID JAPANESSE...INSTEAD OF THE 3 LETTER WORD .....GIVE ME A BREAK ......GOOD THING WE WERNT SO PUSSIFED DURING WWII.
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