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GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Mattel Eclipses GM in Value on Toy-Car Gains
By Jeff Green and Heather Burke July 4 (Bloomberg) -- Mattel Inc., helped by rising sales of Matchbox and Hot Wheels toy cars, has a larger market value than General Motors Corp. for the first time as record U.S. gasoline prices crimp sales of real cars and trucks. GM shares fell to the lowest since 1954 this week after an analyst said bankruptcy was ``not impossible'' if the auto market continues to deteriorate. GM's U.S. unit sales fell 18 percent in June. The chart of the day shows a comparison of the change in market value for Mattel and GM. Mattel is surpassing GM even after the toymaker reported its first quarterly loss in almost three years in April, a reflection of the diverging outlook for the two companies. Mattel may return to profitability after the first quarter, while GM will probably report losses through 2009 as buyers spurn pickup trucks and sport-utility vehicles, analysts said. ``Hot Wheels and Matchbox are basic, low-priced toys, so they appeal to consumers, in the U.S. and especially in less affluent countries, who may not be able to afford more expensive toys,'' Sean McGowan, a toy analyst at Needham & Co. in New York, said yesterday in an e-mail. He recommends buying Mattel shares. GM, the world's largest automaker, rose 14 cents, or 1.4 percent, to $10.12 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading yesterday after a JP Morgan & Chase Co. analyst said GM has ``tough but manageable'' liquidity options. Mattel rose 8 cents to $17.22. Mattel briefly passed Detroit-based GM in market value for the first time June 26 and regained its lead July 2. El Segundo, California-based Mattel is the world's biggest toymaker. Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Jled0&refer=us Quote:
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Re: GM Stock Value Drops Below Toy Car Maker Mattel
Why does Rick Wagoner and Co still have their jobs? And on a side note, you would think the Camaro was already out on dealer lots with all the pictures and the free press this car is getting.
Boy, by the time the Camaro debuts it will be boring.
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Re: GM Stock Value Drops Below Toy Car Maker Mattel
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He has no control over the prices of stocks. It is the people speculating. The same reason our gas prices are up the ass. It is a few people somewhere tweaking out cause something is happening and calling doomsday to come. Or like someone else called it: legal inside trading
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below Toy Car Maker Mattel
I wonder what the value of all the assets GM holds is? If you took the value of all their buildings and plants, all the parts they already own...all the cars they own...and everything else...and added up the entire value of their liquidation price, then subracted their debts.......how would that compare to the companies market cap?
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Maybe Suzuki will buy a controlling interest....
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Just a question to toy car collectors - what's the difference between Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars anyway? Is it thematic (concept cars vs. production cars) or size, or something else?
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Can someone elaborate on market capitalization and why its important? Sorry, I'm in healthcare not business and want a 'educated, easy, but decently comprehensive' understanding of it that I don't need to spend an hour at the library reading about.
thanks CobaltSS
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
A market cap for a company doesn't really mean a whole lot to suits running a company. AOL had a much larger market cap than Time Warner when they merged. How did that work out?
If the dot com bubble proved anything, it's that the market cap of a company can be manipulated to be different than the company is actually worth. How many companies did we see have huge market caps only to go out of business 2 weeks later. The bottom line is that corporate executives don't make decisions just so the company stock will go up. They make decisions that affect the bottom line. |
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
I have noticed that Hot Wheels cars are a little more visually exciting. Hot Wheels also has more non-traditional fantasy vehicles.
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Magna should buy them. I like the idea of a Canadian car company.
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The problem for GM is that since the Market Cap is the Share Price x Number of Outstanding Shares, that's about the amount it would take to buy all of GM shares and take full ownership. And actually, someone would only need a large portion to take control. Someone could buy GM and sell it for parts. Sell the plants, sell some brands, sell some technologies (like hybrid and electric and hydrogen), take the cash and kill the rest of the company off. Outside of GM, and its employees and its retirees, think what that would do to the US economy! But I'd suppose if some Chinese company wanted to do that, the only thing stopping it would be the US government, and we know how quick to act they are . Market Cap is a reflection of the value of the company, but as mentioned above doesn't really impact day to day operations (unless GM wanted to issue new shares, and then the shares have less value and they could therefore raise less cash). However, having the biggest "manufacturing company" in the US go the way it's been headed is bad for all of America, but a lot of people in the media and on Wall Street are actually rooting for it to continue. Not sure what America will do when there are no manufacturing jobs left, and we're reliant on China and India for everything except . . . well, what can't they do? They can make virtually everything we can, they can run our banks, they can even read x-rays via the internet, all cheaper than we can do here. People have been lulled into thinking none of this is a big deal. 10 years from now, we'll all be working for the People's Republic of China.
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
Okay who knows.
Is the value of GM stock higher or lower than the amount of cash that GM reportedly has on hand? BTW, my opinion is that GM and their stock value isn't so much about the corporation as it is about the business climate in the United States. Only in America is being American considered a bad thing. |
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Re: GM's Market Value Drops Below that of Toy Car Maker Mattel
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You can bet your left one that Rick, Lutz et al. Are ALL watching the market cap VERY closely... Keep in mind they ALL hold thousands, if not MILLIONS, of shares... The $50,000 that I lost in the past year is a drop in the bucket compared to the Millions that Rick has lost. At least some of us can take comfort in that fact. The real bottom line is that corporate executives make decisions that affect the bottom line with the GOAL of having the stock go up. You and several other forum members keep forgetting that the CEO works for the share holders... WE are his boss.
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