GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll

tomcat_cool17 · 03-11-2007, 06:05 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17553636/site/newsweek/

For once, GM beat Toyota to the punch for getting the loyal votes. And even some ethics professors aren't saying its foul, just old fashioned politics. Take that Toyota!

CaymanS · 03-11-2007, 06:22 PM

The title just says that GM just wants to win one survey. What's the point of one if one automaker is sending letters to dealers to vote for a darn poll. I'm still GM all the way.

likearock00 · 03-11-2007, 06:25 PM

This poll was weighted heavily from GMI members I believe, but it doesn't matter. Sales will be the ultimate decision maker....

guitarlix · 03-11-2007, 06:34 PM

Good grief. This is absolutely retarded.

Here's confirmation about the mass voting that I mentioned in the GM vs Toyota.

69Firebird400 · 03-11-2007, 06:36 PM

This is great! The poll was not scientific anyway, so Newsweek shouldn't sweat it. If Toyota had been concerned about it, they could have told all of THEIR employees to vote also. Oh wait, thanks to the huge disparity in workforce sizes GM would still have won.

chevydlrmn · 03-11-2007, 07:03 PM

I thought it was dumb when I got the email. Then I realized that there is nothing the matter with that. Hopefully the GM employees voted for GM. It is all they should be driving as well. As long as they didn't vote numerous times. Toyota forums had links the the survey. I worked the Minneapolis Auto Show today and the Chevy area was packed the whole time. As you looked down towards everything else, there was plenty of room. The Tundra display had an o.k. crowd, but nowhere near Chevy.

asim · 03-11-2007, 08:07 PM

Thats just rigged, lol.

tomcat_cool17 · 03-11-2007, 08:14 PM

Hey, it's not our fault Toyota didn't think of it first. If they had, they would probably be touted for being alert and encouraging their proud customers.

marinerbc · 03-11-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarlix

Good grief. This is absolutely retarded.

Here's confirmation about the mass voting that I mentioned in the GM vs Toyota.

No no no. Those of us that voted for GM are retarded. Toyota actually won the poll, it's all just a big conspiracy.

Media! · 03-11-2007, 08:15 PM

I am happy for it to happen.

Make the poll as much of a joke as his article was. I mean it is clear Toyota is on a roll, but his article went well beyond that and seemed like it came straight from the biggest biased toyota fanboy from ToyotaNation.com.

I manipulated facts and didn't focus on change, only trashed and brought up only negative things about GM. Basically said Toyota does more for America by pointing out GM layoff/buyouts of 30k and Toyotas new plant openeings without comparing how many Employees GM still employs over toyota, ratio of how many america jobs per vehicle the sell in america. Nor the fact that toyota imports 48% of their vehicles. Or the fact that GM has 5 times as many factories.

Nothing wrong with putting out an article about Toyotas success and how they made that happen but his article was more of a lets biasly bash GM with stating only part of the facts, ignoring the turnaround and praising toyota.

This should not have been a news report but it should of simply been labeled as an editorial.

guitarlix · 03-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinerbc

No no no. Those of us that voted for GM are retarded. Toyota actually won the poll, it's all just a big conspiracy.

That actually sounds accurate to me.

awalbert88 · 03-11-2007, 08:19 PM

Quote:

"But if I were a general consumer and saw that lopsded number (in GM's favor), I'd say, 'this is crazy,' and not put any credibility into it."

Really? I'd say "this is crazy" in response to it being as lopsided in favor of Toyota as it was previously. Newsweek has a more liberal and foreign-biased readership than a lot of magazines. So I find it totally unsurprising that it had been the other way beforehand, though still crazy that their readers could be that ignorant of the great vehicles GM currently makes compared to Toyota.

marinerbc · 03-11-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarlix

That actually sounds accurate to me.

I thought you'd approve.

eaton53 · 03-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Heck, I sent to poll to several of my friends.
Does that make me a bad person??

Angry Dad · 03-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarlix

Good grief. This is absolutely retarded.

Here's confirmation about the mass voting that I mentioned in the GM vs Toyota.

I guess that post over on Toyota Nation requesting votes was totally retarded too?

What it all boils down to is GM has that many people that will vote for them, Toyota doesn't. But some people would rather invent a conspiracy then admit they're backing a loser.

03-11-2007, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
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CaymanS 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Drives: 2006 Mazda5 2006 Honda Civic Coupe Posts: 443	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll The title just says that GM just wants to win one survey. What's the point of one if one automaker is sending letters to dealers to vote for a darn poll. I'm still GM all the way. __________________

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guitarlix 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,154	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll Good grief. This is absolutely retarded. Here's confirmation about the mass voting that I mentioned in the GM vs Toyota.

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chevydlrmn 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minneapolis Drives: 2006 CK15753 LQ9 2007 1WL27 LS4 Posts: 842	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll I thought it was dumb when I got the email. Then I realized that there is nothing the matter with that. Hopefully the GM employees voted for GM. It is all they should be driving as well. As long as they didn't vote numerous times. Toyota forums had links the the survey. I worked the Minneapolis Auto Show today and the Chevy area was packed the whole time. As you looked down towards everything else, there was plenty of room. The Tundra display had an o.k. crowd, but nowhere near Chevy. Last edited by chevydlrmn : 03-11-2007 at 07:05 PM.

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asim Firebird Concept (the turbine one) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,271	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll Thats just rigged, lol. __________________ I'll make a new sig. Later.

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tomcat_cool17 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Flint, MI Drives: 2007 Saturn Ion QC Posts: 414	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll Hey, it's not our fault Toyota didn't think of it first. If they had, they would probably be touted for being alert and encouraging their proud customers.

03-11-2007, 08:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Media! 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 365	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll I am happy for it to happen. Make the poll as much of a joke as his article was. I mean it is clear Toyota is on a roll, but his article went well beyond that and seemed like it came straight from the biggest biased toyota fanboy from ToyotaNation.com. I manipulated facts and didn't focus on change, only trashed and brought up only negative things about GM. Basically said Toyota does more for America by pointing out GM layoff/buyouts of 30k and Toyotas new plant openeings without comparing how many Employees GM still employs over toyota, ratio of how many america jobs per vehicle the sell in america. Nor the fact that toyota imports 48% of their vehicles. Or the fact that GM has 5 times as many factories. Nothing wrong with putting out an article about Toyotas success and how they made that happen but his article was more of a lets biasly bash GM with stating only part of the facts, ignoring the turnaround and praising toyota. This should not have been a news report but it should of simply been labeled as an editorial.

03-11-2007, 08:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
eaton53 6.2 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,553	Re: GM sends letter to dealers to vote in Newsweek Poll Heck, I sent to poll to several of my friends. Does that make me a bad person?? __________________ TiresomeOverratedYawnmobilesOrTediousAppliances Progress happens when all the factors that make for it are ready, and then it is inevitable. - Henry Ford on the Volt.

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