GM Price Too High For Spring Hill

[Stovebolt]

Originally Posted by 1G6

You mean the rotten, borderline treasonous politics played by the southern Republicans?

They should grind that plant to dust and scatter the mess on Corker's yard.

No, the rotten, borderline treasonous Democratic politicians that believe it's their right to rob taxpayers and use their money to attract businesses.

snootchie bootchies.

[K-1]

Originally Posted by Stovebolt

No, the rotten, borderline treasonous Democratic politicians that believe it's their right to rob taxpayers and use their money to attract businesses.

snootchie bootchies.

Once the money has been paid to the gov't, it is no longer "taxpayer money," it's the gov't's money. Would you like it if your employer told you how to spend your wages?

[jorgesalazar521@msn.com]

Originally Posted by Bokl

Here we go again. New gm is really same old gm. And i have a feeling gm will end up in chapter 11 again if it ever gets out from this one. Lets give same vehicle to all of your devisions and sell one for 30k and all the way up to 70k. Nothing has changed.
Then when you ask GM CEO to give g8 to chevy he said we are against rebadging. Wow

well i guess youll be on strike protesting toyo/hon/niss, what do you think they do with their lux brands, toy-has like 3 platforms for all of their cars.
why diss GM if they all do it. the camry has about a dozen variations

[RamJet502]

That's really too bad, until GM gets out of Detroit the culture of mediocrity will continue. The attempted extortion of non-union states seems idiotic, GM should be wining and dining Tennessee and Wisconsin.

[Stovebolt]

Originally Posted by K-1

Once the money has been paid to the gov't, it is no longer "taxpayer money," it's the gov't's money. Would you like it if your employer told you how to spend your wages?

No, it isn't. Taxpayer money is always taxpayer money. Unless it's freely given for a service rendered, it's held in trust by the government for the public good. It is NOT "their" money, no more than a thief stealing from you makes it "his." I EARN my employer's wages. The government has not earned that money. It's a simple distinction. Not to mention, if that employer no longer wishes to pay me, he can fire me. I cannot fire my government, as much as I'd like to.

Oh, and it's also rotten, borderline treasonous Michigan Democrats who decided they could freeload off of the D3 for several decades and strangled the economy through high taxes and regulation.

[rsbaker]

Volkswagen is getting a total of about $500,000,000 in tax abatement free land & training and infrastructure improvements to build in Tennessee. I don't know why GM can't get what its asking for.

[RamJet502]

Originally Posted by K-1

Once the money has been paid to the gov't, it is no longer "taxpayer money," it's the gov't's money. Would you like it if your employer told you how to spend your wages?

Its OUR money, not the Governments! The Government is supposed to be representative of the people, not an independent entity.

[msitter]

It sounds to me that VW was willing to work with Tenn. and GM was just trying to extort up front payments. Why invest in a shaky proposition like GM, who may not be around later when the American public decides that putting more cash in them is like rearanging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

[Whitesky]

Glad it's in Michigan where it should be.

[msitter]

I think it is better to consolidate all of GM's losses in one state anyways.

[1G6]

Originally Posted by Stovebolt

No, the rotten, borderline treasonous Democratic politicians that believe it's their right to rob taxpayers and use their money to attract businesses.

snootchie bootchies.

The people down there are happy to throw taxpayer money into the hands of foreigners, and you're griping about taxpayer money being used to save American interests.

Put simply, WTF man?

['Vette Dude]

Are we trying to get this locked?

[rsbaker]

Originally Posted by msitter

It sounds to me that VW was willing to work with Tenn. and GM was just trying to extort up front payments. Why invest in a shaky proposition like GM, who may not be around later when the American public decides that putting more cash in them is like rearanging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Pardon my French but that's B*** S***. Volkswagen has no monopoly on virtue. They will build in whichever state writes the biggest check. GM and Ford should get the same deals with states, that the foreign manufacturers get. Whose to say Volkswagen might not be on that sinking ship too, given the recent headlines about parent company Porsche being in financial trouble after spending too much to acquire Volkswagen. They were just denied a €1,750,000,000 debt servicing loan. ($2,458,575,000) I'll stick to my original statement. Tennessee should cough up just as much money for GM as they did for VW.

Read here: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Content/Ne...he_loan_denied

[PeteM143]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokl
Here we go again. New gm is really same old gm. And i have a feeling gm will end up in chapter 11 again if it ever gets out from this one. Lets give same vehicle to all of your devisions and sell one for 30k and all the way up to 70k. Nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by K-1

How does that differ from anyone else with a mainstream division? Toyota/Lexus does it, Honda/Acura does it, Ford/Lincoln does it, Volkswagen/Audi does it, hell Kia/Hyundai does it. Ideally, GMC should fold, but it's only one vehicle over everyone else.

Bokl,
Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.. Toyota is the king of badge engineering.
And again, for about the 700th time USE SPELL CHECK. It really isn't that complicated.
Divisions....that's how it's spelled. Capitalize where required....

"Grammar, it's not just for kids anymore".

[vcs2600]

Originally Posted by rsbaker

Volkswagen is getting a total of about $500,000,000 in tax abatement free land & training and infrastructure improvements to build in Tennessee. I don't know why GM can't get what its asking for.

Don't forget that GM received massive incentives to build the Spring Hill plant in the first place.