GM Dominates "Lightning Lap" 2008 - Page 2

96_impala_ss · 09-25-2008, 05:51 PM

GM is doing good no way u can deny it.

U will never see a corolla doing what the cobalt did but you will see the corolla being a ricer

jcurry05 · 09-25-2008, 05:58 PM

Very nice

Astra RL · 09-25-2008, 06:03 PM

oklapike · 09-25-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMusa

How come they didnt test the ZR1 in the LL3 class??

Maybe because two versions of the same model aren't allowed? Although it would have been nice to have the ZR1 spank the competition in that class as well.

bone · 09-25-2008, 06:52 PM

The Cobalt SS and Z-51 Vette are the best vehicle for the money available to the car buying public. Period.

baloo · 09-25-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamJet502

How did the Corvette Z51 change between this year and last year?

They tested 07 models last year, so the Z51 got a bigger engine in the meantime.

Koasterking · 09-25-2008, 07:39 PM

Good times. I wish I could get the Cobalt SS now, but I'll wait to see what GM will do to the Cruze.

BTW, does anyone know if GM will do a Cruze SS??

logansowner · 09-25-2008, 07:54 PM

Why no Mazdaspeed 3? The Caliber wasn't competition for the old SS, why would they even bother testing it against the new one? And the Volvo? Coulda picked some better competition for that class...

Some damn fine numbers for all 3 cars though. Cool article.

redTT · 09-25-2008, 08:11 PM

Im disapointed in the Nissan, I was expecting a far faster time especially when you think on it's 7:29 Nur time. A tire change in the ZO6 would have yielded that same time.

I would guess that the Mosler and ACR dominated.

tamatt27 · 09-25-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbernie

that and red goes faster too.

You see, this is the kind of misconception that happens when the general public tries to 'examine' cars without knowing all the facts! It's a scientific fact that BLACK in the fastest color!

Ach · 09-25-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logansowner

Why no Mazdaspeed 3? The Caliber wasn't competition for the old SS, why would they even bother testing it against the new one? And the Volvo? Coulda picked some better competition for that class...

Some damn fine numbers for all 3 cars though. Cool article.

The SS Supercharged smoked the VW GTI and Civic Si in a previous Lightning Lap, so they weren't going to bring those two back against the quicker-still turbo. And I think they may have tested the MS3 last time, though it would have been nice to see them go head to head.

EDIT: The SS/TC beat the MS3's time by around 3 secs. Pretty impressive.

stevecmh · 09-25-2008, 10:13 PM

wow great to see.. to bad no ZR1

jasaero · 09-25-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logansowner

Why no Mazdaspeed 3? The Caliber wasn't competition for the old SS, why would they even bother testing it against the new one? And the Volvo? Coulda picked some better competition for that class...

Some damn fine numbers for all 3 cars though. Cool article.

Mazdaspeed3 was tested last year at 3:16.0. Here is the whole list from the two prior tests they have done so far.

Dodge Viper SRT10 02:57.4 LL3 2008 $86,845 $91,145 600 6-sp man 3455
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:58.2 LL3 2007 $70,000 $77,230 505 6-sp man 3189
Ford GT 03:00.7 LL4 2006 $153,345 $174,595 550 6-sp man 3508
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 03:01.1 LL3 2006 $65,690 $68,590 505 6-sp man 3156
Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe 03:01.6 LL3 2006 $86,995 $88,295 510 6-sp man 3433
Porsche 911 GT3 03:01.8 LL3 2007 $106,860 $121,559 415 6-sp man 3303
Chevrolet Corvette Z51 03:03.6 LL2 2007 $45,075 $56,065 400 6-sp man 3290
Lotus Exige S 03:04.5 LL3 2007 $60,815 $66,035 220 6-sp man 2066
Audi R8 03:04.6 LL3 2007 $109,775 $117,725 420 6-sp man 3592
Porsche 911 Turbo 03:05.8 LL4 2007 $123,760 $141,510 480 6-sp man 3528
Ford Shelby GT500 03:05.9 LL2 2007 $42,975 $43,765 500 6-sp man 3908
Lotus Elise 03:09.2 LL2 2006 $43,915 $53,910 190 6-sp man 1980
Chevrolet Corvette Z51 03:09.3 LL2 2006 $44,490 $56,070 400 6-sp man 3270
Porsche Cayman S 03:09.5 LL2 2006 $59,695 $68,650 295 6-sp man 3120
BMW M6 03:10.0 LL3 2006 $99,795 $106,690 500 7-sp auto man 3903
BMW 335i Coupe 03:10.5 LL2 2007 $41,575 $46,200 300 6-sp man 3366
Ford Shelby GT500 03:11.0 LL2 2007 $42,975 $43,765 500 6-sp man 3887
Audi RS4 03:11.2 LL3 2007 $68,875 $74,325 420 6-sp man 3952
BMW Z4 M Coupe 03:11.7 LL2 2007 $51,875 $57,500 330 6-sp man 3312
Nissan 350Z Track 03:12.5 LL1 2006 $28,255 $35,865 300 6-sp man 3334
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 03:13.5 LL1 2006 $29,774 $36,924 286 6-sp man 3281
Pontiac Solstice GXP 03:15.7 LL1 2007 $27,115 $31,096 260 5-sp man 3032
Mazdaspeed 3 03:16.0 LL1 2007 $24,650 $24,650 263 6-sp man 3075
Dodge Charger SRT8 03:18.2 LL2 2006 $38,095 $43,505 425 5-sp auto 4241
Mazda RX-8 03:19.0 LL1 2006 $26,995 $31,505 232 6-sp man 3040
Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged 03:20.6 LL1 2006 $20,490 $22,385 205 5-sp man 2919
Ford Mustang GT 03:20.9 LL1 2006 $25,860 $30,345 300 5-sp man 3579
Mini Cooper S 03:22.9 LL1 2007 $21,850 $26,170 172 6-sp man 2657
Volkswagen GTI 03:25.1 LL1 2007 $22,730 $27,725 200 6-sp auto man 3216
Honda Civic Si 03:26.5 LL1 2006 $20,885 $22,635 197 6-sp man 2872
Mazda MX-5 03:29.3 LL1 2006 $20,995 $25,495 170 6-sp man 2475

genjy · 09-25-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasaero

Mazdaspeed3 was tested last year at 3:16.0. Here is the whole list from the two prior tests they have done so far.

Lightning Lap Cumulative Results

PRICE WEIGHT, MAX SPEED, TIRE SIZE
CAR LAP TIME CLASS MY BASE TESTED HP TRANS POUNDS MPH DATE TIRE MAKE AND MODEL FRONT REAR
Dodge Viper SRT10 02:57.4 LL3 2008 $86,845 $91,145 600 6-sp man 3455 153.8 7/12/2007 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 275/35ZR-18 (95Y) 345/30ZR-19 (105Y)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:58.2 LL3 2007 $70,000 $77,230 505 6-sp man 3189 153.1 5/2/2007 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMT P275/35ZR-18 (87Y) P325/30ZR-19 (94Y)
Ford GT 03:00.7 LL4 2006 $153,345 $174,595 550 6-sp man 3508 148.6 8/9/2006 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar P235/45ZR-18 (88Y) P315/40ZR-19 (103Y)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 03:01.1 LL3 2006 $65,690 $68,590 505 6-sp man 3156 148.3 8/9/2006 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMT P275/35ZR-18 (87Y) P325/30ZR-19 (94Y)
Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe 03:01.6 LL3 2006 $86,995 $88,295 510 6-sp man 3433 145.0 8/9/2006 Michelin Pilot Sport P275/35ZR-18 (87Y) P345/30ZR-19 (98Y)
Porsche 911 GT3 03:01.8 LL3 2007 $106,860 $121,559 415 6-sp man 3303 145.3 5/2/2007 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 235/35ZR-19 (87Y) 305/30ZR-19 (102Y)
Chevrolet Corvette Z51 03:03.6 LL2 2007 $45,075 $56,065 400 6-sp man 3290 140.1 5/2/2007 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMT P245/40ZR-18 (88Y) P285/35ZR-19 (90Y)
Lotus Exige S 03:04.5 LL3 2007 $60,815 $66,035 220 6-sp man 2066 124.3 5/2/2007 Yokohama Advan A048 195/50R-16 84W 225/45R-17 90W
Audi R8 03:04.6 LL3 2007 $109,775 $117,725 420 6-sp man 3592 138.2 5/2/2007 Pirelli PZero R01 235/35ZR-19 (91Y) 295/30ZR-19 (100Y)
Porsche 911 Turbo 03:05.8 LL4 2007 $123,760 $141,510 480 6-sp man 3528 145.7 5/2/2007 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 235/35ZR-19 (87Y) 305/30ZR-19 (102Y)
Ford Shelby GT500 03:05.9 LL2 2007 $42,975 $43,765 500 6-sp man 3908 136.2 5/2/2007 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar P255/45ZR-18 99W P285/40ZR-18 96W
Lotus Elise 03:09.2 LL2 2006 $43,915 $53,910 190 6-sp man 1980 119.5 8/9/2006 Yokohama Advan A048 195/50R-16 84W 225/45R-17 90W
Chevrolet Corvette Z51 03:09.3 LL2 2006 $44,490 $56,070 400 6-sp man 3270 136.5 8/9/2006 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMT P245/40ZR-18 88Y P285/35ZR-19 90Y
Porsche Cayman S 03:09.5 LL2 2006 $59,695 $68,650 295 6-sp man 3120 129.2 8/9/2006 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 235/35ZR-19 (87Y) 265/35ZR-19 (94Y)
BMW M6 03:10.0 LL3 2006 $99,795 $106,690 500 7-sp auto man 3903 140.9 8/9/2006 Continental SportContact2 255/40ZR-19 285/35ZR-19
BMW 335i Coupe 03:10.5 LL2 2007 $41,575 $46,200 300 6-sp man 3366 131.5 5/2/2007 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A RFT 225/40R-18 88W 255/35R-18 90W
Ford Shelby GT500 03:11.0 LL2 2007 $42,975 $43,765 500 6-sp man 3887 132.8 8/9/2006 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar P255/45ZR-18 99W P285/40ZR-18 96W
Audi RS4 03:11.2 LL3 2007 $68,875 $74,325 420 6-sp man 3952 135.2 5/2/2007 Pirelli PZero Rosso 255/35ZR-19 (96Y) 255/35ZR-19 (96Y)
BMW Z4 M Coupe 03:11.7 LL2 2007 $51,875 $57,500 330 6-sp man 3312 131.2 5/2/2007 Continental ContiSportContact M3 225/45ZR-18 255/40ZR-18
Nissan 350Z Track 03:12.5 LL1 2006 $28,255 $35,865 300 6-sp man 3334 124.3 8/9/2006 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 245/40R-18 93W 265/35R-19 94W
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 03:13.5 LL1 2006 $29,774 $36,924 286 6-sp man 3281 124.0 8/9/2006 Yokohama Advan A046 P235/45R-17 93W P235/45R-17 93W
Pontiac Solstice GXP 03:15.7 LL1 2007 $27,115 $31,096 260 5-sp man 3032 122.2 5/2/2007 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS2 P245/45R-18 96W P245/45R-18 96W
Mazdaspeed 3 03:16.0 LL1 2007 $24,650 $24,650 263 6-sp man 3075 122.6 5/2/2007 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 215/45R-18 93Y 215/45R-18 93Y
Dodge Charger SRT8 03:18.2 LL2 2006 $38,095 $43,505 425 5-sp auto 4241 128.6 8/9/2006 Goodyear Eagle RS-A M+S 245/45R-20 99Y 245/45R-20 99Y
Mazda RX-8 03:19.0 LL1 2006 $26,995 $31,505 232 6-sp man 3040 116.4 8/9/2006 Dunlop SP Sport 8090M 225/45R-18 91W 225/45R-18 91W
Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged 03:20.6 LL1 2006 $20,490 $22,385 205 5-sp man 2919 117.1 8/9/2006 Pirelli PZero Rosso 215/45R-18 93W 215/45R-18 93W
Ford Mustang GT 03:20.9 LL1 2006 $25,860 $30,345 300 5-sp man 3579 119.3 8/9/2006 BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS M+S 235/50ZR-18 97W 235/50ZR-18 97W
Mini Cooper S 03:22.9 LL1 2007 $21,850 $26,170 172 6-sp man 2657 113.0 5/2/2007 Goodyear Excellence Runflat 195/55R-16 87V RSC 195/55R-16 87V RSC
Volkswagen GTI 03:25.1 LL1 2007 $22,730 $27,725 200 6-sp auto man 3216 112.0 8/9/2006 Continental SportContact2 225/40R-18 92Y 225/40R-18 92Y
Honda Civic Si 03:26.5 LL1 2006 $20,885 $22,635 197 6-sp man 2872 111.6 8/9/2006 Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 P215/45R-17 87V P215/45R-17 87V
Mazda MX-5 03:29.3 LL1 2006 $20,995 $25,495 170 6-sp man 2475 108.6 8/9/2006 Michelin Pilot Preceda 205/45R-17 84W 205/45R-17 84W

jasaero · 09-25-2008, 11:46 PM

Sorry. Thought it would come through better, but copied too much. Will try to fix.

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logansowner 6.0 Liter L76 V8 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Between the puck and the mesh Posts: 2,266	Re: GM Dominates "Lightning Lap" 2008 Why no Mazdaspeed 3? The Caliber wasn't competition for the old SS, why would they even bother testing it against the new one? And the Volvo? Coulda picked some better competition for that class... Some damn fine numbers for all 3 cars though. Cool article.

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