GM does platform sharing right

Robert G · 01-02-2008, 01:52 PM

From Autoweek:

"Except for the identical door handles, it's hard to believe the 9-3 shares much of its underpinnings with the Chevy Malibu and Saturn Aura. As much as that's a good sign for Chevy and Saturn, it's equally good that General Motors has been able to take one chassis and make it into three distinctly different models. . . ."

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...4940/1532/FREE

**mgescuro** · 01-02-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert G

From Autoweek:

"Except for the identical door handles, it's hard to believe the 9-3 shares much of its underpinnings with the Chevy Malibu and Saturn Aura. As much as that's a good sign for Chevy and Saturn, it's equally good that General Motors has been able to take one chassis and make it into three distinctly different models. . . ."

Meh. Those people are blind. And the 9-3 isn't on the same platform. It's on a heavily modified version of the same platform. And the door handles are actually a step downward for Saab. And what happened to the G6?

Buick61 · 01-02-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

Meh. Those people are blind. And the 9-3 isn't on the same platform. It's on a heavily modified version of the same platform. And the door handles are actually a step downward for Saab. And what happened to the G6?

The less it's mentioned, the better.

MCGARRETT · 01-02-2008, 02:19 PM

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And the 9-3 isn't on the same platform. It's on a heavily modified version of the same platform

Yogi Berra statement of the day.

coaster.n3rd · 01-02-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

Meh. Those people are blind. And the 9-3 isn't on the same platform. It's on a heavily modified version of the same platform. And the door handles are actually a step downward for Saab. And what happened to the G6?

The buying public and auto journalists do not agree with you. When you are a fan it ieasy to pick apart something and find its faults. However everything else is invisible to those signing on the line.

poncho1982 · 01-02-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd

The buying public and auto journalists do not agree with you. When you are a fan it ieasy to pick apart something and find its faults. However everything else is invisible to those signing on the line.

Good Point.

I have a hard time believing that this MGESCURO is a GM fan, he bashes them more than any GM hater I have ever known. Some people can never be happy.

**mgescuro** · 01-02-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd

The buying public and auto journalists do not agree with you. When you are a fan it ieasy to pick apart something and find its faults. However everything else is invisible to those signing on the line.

This is the same media that believes the Aura and the Vectra are the same car!!!
They're not the same car!!

Don't even try to convince me the 9-3 and Aura/Malibu/G6 are "identical." They're soooo not even in the same ballpark.

And we all know that there are 4 different Epsilons -- none of which are compatible with each other!
-- Opel Epsilon
-- Saab Epsilon
-- Alfa Epsilon
-- North American Epsilon (SWB and LWB)

FoMoCo Fan · 01-02-2008, 02:30 PM

You can't have it both ways. First you complain about them sharing platforms. Then you complain about them being too different?

skylark68 · 01-02-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by poncho1982

Good Point.

I have a hard time believing that this MGESCURO is a GM fan, he bashes them more than any GM hater I have ever known. Some people can never be happy.

I agree as well. I have rarely, if at all, read a positive comment.

genjy · 01-02-2008, 02:33 PM

I can't believe some of you guys are defending misinformation.

In this case, the misinformation is in GM's favor, but it's still misinformation.

Hitman1970 · 01-02-2008, 02:38 PM

MGESCURO has high standards and is blunt. Nothing wrong with either thing. He is definately not a GM basher.

The differences are significant enough between these platforms of the same name to keep navigation out of Malibu, Aura, and G6.

FenwickHockey65 · 01-02-2008, 02:43 PM

Actually, he's right. The current Saab 9-3 is on the short wheelbase Epsilon platform. The current Malibu and Aura are on the long wheelbase Epsilon.
But don't tell them that.

Ambalanche · 01-02-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by poncho1982

Good Point.

I have a hard time believing that this MGESCURO is a GM fan, he bashes them more than any GM hater I have ever known. Some people can never be happy.

THANK YOU! I've been wondering that myself. And a staff member no less!

genjy · 01-02-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman1970

The differences are significant enough between these platforms of the same name to keep navigation out of Malibu, Aura, and G6.

And 9-3's turbo v6 powertrain and XWD.

starlightmica · 01-02-2008, 03:01 PM

Better example of platform sharing:

Ford C1 (Euro Focus, C-Max, Volvo C30/S40/V50/C70, Mazda3, Mazda5) begets Ford EUCD (Ford S-Max, Galaxy, Mondeo, Land Rover LR2, Volvo V70/S80).

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FoMoCo Fan 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,014	Re: GM does platform sharing right You can't have it both ways. First you complain about them sharing platforms. Then you complain about them being too different?

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Hitman1970 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Drives: 2006 Buick LaCrosse CXS; Black with Grey Interior Posts: 1,978	Re: GM does platform sharing right MGESCURO has high standards and is blunt. Nothing wrong with either thing. He is definately not a GM basher. The differences are significant enough between these platforms of the same name to keep navigation out of Malibu, Aura, and G6. __________________ Current Ride: 2006 Buick LaCrosse CXS (Black w/ Grey Leather Interior) Wife's Ride: 2005 Ford Freestyle SEL (Charcoal Grey/Silver w/Grey Leather Interior)

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FenwickHockey65 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: West Chester, OH Drives: Chevrolet Malibu LS, GMC Envoy SLE, GMC Sonoma SLS Posts: 5,493	Re: GM does platform sharing right Actually, he's right. The current Saab 9-3 is on the short wheelbase Epsilon platform. The current Malibu and Aura are on the long wheelbase Epsilon. But don't tell them that. __________________ Proud to drive American. Proud to drive GM. Current Cars: 2007 Chevrolet Malibu LS: 2.2L ECOTEC I-4 2003 GMC Envoy SLE: 4.2L Vortec 4200 I-6 1998 GMC Sonoma SLS Ext. Cab: 4.3L Vortec 4300 V6 Former Cars: 1993 Saturn SW2 (1993-2006, 243,000 miles) 1989 GMC Safari SLT (1989-2003, 293,000 miles) Future Car: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT RS: 3.6L DI VVT V6

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starlightmica 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 290	Re: GM does platform sharing right Better example of platform sharing: Ford C1 (Euro Focus, C-Max, Volvo C30/S40/V50/C70, Mazda3, Mazda5) begets Ford EUCD (Ford S-Max, Galaxy, Mondeo, Land Rover LR2, Volvo V70/S80). __________________ Economist.com: drive with E85, starve the poor

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