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10-19-2008, 01:08 AM
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Re: GM + Chrysler: What it may look like post-merger
End this nonsense! Management at GM should be soley focusing on creating, building and selling CLASS LEADING PRODUCT.
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10-19-2008, 01:13 AM
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Re: GM + Chrysler: What it may look like post-merger
They want that 11 Billion though, Jay. That's a tough cookie jar to ignore.
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10-19-2008, 01:33 AM
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There is 7 billion of debt on Chrysler's books to JP Morgan etc - 'borrowed' post Daimler ie that has to be paid off at the time of merge. Since JP Morgan is the instigator and is helping to rush the deal along a fair estimate is that they don't plan on continuing that loan. A big chunk of this was used in Cerebus's initial purchase but it's on Chrysler's books. After this that and the other, GM would be lucky to net 2.5 - 3 billion. Depending on the exact details that in turn could get used up as an extra cost for the merge itself ie no net cash.
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In regards to the VOLT With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight: Vehicle Gallons per year Volt .. 37 Prius 228 30 MPG car 380 20 MPG car 570 Dave G. Last edited by AMERICA 123 : 10-19-2008 at 02:37 AM. |
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10-19-2008, 01:48 AM
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Re: GM + Chrysler: What it may look like post-merger
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Chevy Silverado: 14/19MPG Ford F-150: 14/18MPG Dodge Ram: 14/18MPG Toyota Tundra 13/17MPG These figures are according to
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10-19-2008, 01:53 AM
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TOYOTA Tundra 4WD .................................................. A-S5 .....4.7/8 ...... 13/16 ..... $4,391 .................................................. ....................A-S6......5.7/8 ...... 13/17 ..... $4,102 Tundra 4WD FFV ............................................A-S6......5.7/8 .......10/13 ..... $4,840 ....E85 .................................................. .................................................. 13/17.......$4,102 ....Gas ************************************************** *********** TOYOTA Tundra 2WD .................................................. A-S5........4.0/6.........15/19 ........$3,844 .................................................. ...................A-S5.........4.7/8 ........14/17 ........$4,102 .................................................. ...................A-S6.........5.7/8.........14/18.........$3,844 ************************************************** *********** EPA INTERIOR VOLUME PASSENGER - TRUNK ( cu - ft ) Crown Vic............................107............21 Impala.................................105........ ...19 Charger..............................104.......... ..16 300C..................................107......... ...17
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In regards to the VOLT With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight: Vehicle Gallons per year Volt .. 37 Prius 228 30 MPG car 380 20 MPG car 570 Dave G. Last edited by AMERICA 123 : 10-19-2008 at 02:28 AM. |
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10-19-2008, 07:18 AM
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Silverado: 14/20/16 F-150: 15/20/17 Ram: 14/20/16 Tundra: 15/19/16 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byclass.htm |
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10-19-2008, 09:26 AM
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and with the crown vic according to your own numbers the Crown Vic still is bigger then the 300c.... so who is the one that is accurate here man..... I take it you must work for the liberal media elite. Also the 300c does even look to be as large as the Crown Vic. Plus alot of people like the looks of the crown vic or ford would not be selling them hand over fist to people.... |
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10-19-2008, 09:29 AM
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10-19-2008, 09:38 AM
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10-19-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: GM + Chrysler: What it may look like post-merger
just to bring some hot discussion, here the Tundra fuel mileage from Natural Ressources Canada
2wd 4.7L http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...d=68209&attr=8 Tundra 2wd 5.7L 15.3L/100km city 10.9L/100km highway http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...d=68210&attr=8 4wd 4.7L 16L/100 km city 12.3L/100km hwy http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...d=68211&attr=8 4wd 5.7L 16.9L/100km city 11.8L hwy http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...d=68212&attr=8 |
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10-19-2008, 10:44 AM
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10-19-2008, 10:48 AM
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10-19-2008, 10:49 AM
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10-19-2008, 12:02 PM
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10-19-2008, 12:04 PM
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