GM 2012: Future cars

[camaro_freak]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

It's going to grow a long grey beard and start carrying a cane.

Exactly - just bring the Caprice over for US sales along with the police car and be done with it!!!!

[BrickTamland]

My armchair analyst...umm...analysis:

It seems like the 2012 Malibu will be an update similar to the 2010 Fusion in the way they are describing it. I had been thinking it would be more extensive.

When are the Spark and new Aveo coming to market? Hopefully not two from now.

Impala?

I like that the new entry-level Caddy will have a manual. It seems too many new car introductions are eliminating manuals...or restricting them to basic models; which is an unfortunate possibility for the entry-level Cadillac.

Buick

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by fp115

Oh really? I said it was AWD

Did you even read my post? I wasn't talking about if AWD is in the base car... I was talking about the engine.
AWD being in this car is not news, we have known about that for about a year now.

[Saturn69]

Originally Posted by t-rex

Don't be so quick to condemn, K-1! Who knows? The "baby" GMC could just as well turn out to be very cool and funky, like the Groove and Trax concepts, or even the nifty Dodge Hornet concept from a few years back. I suspect "Scion xB proportions" simply means it'll be a compact, tall little wagon. Imagine an xB-sized car with Terrain styling cues!

There's also practical reasons for GMC to offer something like this. The GMC brand is well-loved in the yuppie community. Yuppies latch on to anything and everything that's "trendy" (just witness mgescuro's entire lifestyle! ). With "Green" becoming the new "in" thing, and conspicious consumption on its way out, there'll be swarms of well-heeled customers out there looking for mini-urban-warrior wagons that are a cut above plebian Scions in price and image.

With the Mini Cooper starting to become cliché — not to mention its unfortunate "chick" image — a tough-but-classy-looking baby GMCster could very well be poised to become the next "hot" item amongst upscale urban hipsters.

I'm just saying... keep your mind open to the possible positive benefits such a model could bring, rather than cavalierly dismissing it.

What is so unfortunate about a "chick image"? I don't see why people fixate on this.

[Elvisuperman]

Originally Posted by CamaroCrazy

Hate to rain on this parade, but this is a repost. This CNN article was last updated on Oct. 1. I've read this before.

That's what I thought...I figured they'd close this thread or link it to the original one, but, instead it ends up on the front page! Go Figure!

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by CamaroCrazy

Hate to rain on this parade, but this is a repost. This CNN article was last updated on Oct. 1. I've read this before.

LOL you are right! We've been punked!

[jaywestfall]

Originally Posted by prototype66

as far as we know.......
maybe Bob and Ed have a secret project in the wings!

Internal GM code name should be: " Bob and Ed's Excellent Adventure "

[smithb]

There is a better review in Motor Trend, where they had their artists sketch what they saw, including the ATS.

[fp115]

Originally Posted by BrickTamland

When are the Spark and new Aveo coming to market? Hopefully not two from now.


Buick

Aveo is here within 8 months. Spark in 2011 as a 2012 model.

[KingElvis]

Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001

According to that the big Cadillac will be a AWD only vehicle much like the Audi A8 is sold in America as a AWD only vehicle.....

This defeats the benefits of going to a FWD platform as its heavier and looses more power then a RWD platform.......

But four wheel drive is twice as good as two wheel drive. Will have far better handling in most conditions and will drive about as good as rwd in dry weather. And no fishtailing or spin-outs.

[KingElvis]

Originally Posted by K-1

Kill the GMC xB now!

They describe a Buick "small crossover with lots of chrome" that sounds like the GMC version. Badge engineering - even with half the brands they once had - LIVES.

[spidge]

Not looking forward to a Bangle-butt Malibu. It should look like a Chevy, and not a European luxury sedan. With all of GM's great design history, they don't have to resort to copying off BMW.

Any xB-type vehicle should be sold through Chevy, not GMC. They have been diluted enough with a plethora of crossovers.

Look forward to the "baby" Cadillac.

[KingElvis]

Originally Posted by BrickTamland

My armchair analyst...umm...analysis:

It seems like the 2012 Malibu will be an update similar to the 2010 Fusion in the way they are describing it. I had been thinking it would be more extensive.

When are the Spark and new Aveo coming to market? Hopefully not two from now.

Impala?

I like that the new entry-level Caddy will have a manual. It seems too many new car introductions are eliminating manuals...or restricting them to basic models; which is an unfortunate possibility for the entry-level Cadillac.

Buick

If it looks - and more importantly, SELLS like the 3 series, this could be Cadillac's new gold mine. I personally am intrigued. If it had a small block V8 it would essentially be a Cadillac "pony car" - an interesting first.

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by KingElvis

But four wheel drive is twice as good as two wheel drive. Will have far better handling in most conditions and will drive about as good as rwd in dry weather. And no fishtailing or spin-outs.

I have yet to have my 2wd stability controlled Cadillac fishtail or spin out... and I have actually tried several times to do just that.. On a hard packed snow covered sidestreet I once managed to put the car sideways down the street for a 100' maybe... (while the dash flashed warning lights and the brakes tried to pull the car back in line) but for the life of me I could not get this car to "swap ends"

Stabilitrak... I will never buy another car without it.

BTW as was posted above this is a repost of an old news story... we have had lots of confirmation since this story was published that the XTS will likely be offered as a FWD car too... Nothing new here.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by KingElvis

They describe a Buick "small crossover with lots of chrome" that sounds like the GMC version. Badge engineering - even with half the brands they once had - LIVES.

Picture an Enclave.

Now shrink it.

Recall the GM commercial with Ed Whitacre in it and find the GMC-badged crossover in the center.

Does it look like a shrunken Enclave?

In fact, go back to the same commercial and look for what appears to be a smaller Enclave. Looks nothing like the GMC-badged crossover.