EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals - Page 3

blkwrxsti · 04-17-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon

UN panel: Cows emit more greenhouse gases than cars

Leave the cows be - I have it on good authority that the world will get very cold and dark in the year 2036 anyway...

http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html

1 in 450 - that's got to be at least as good as the odds on global warming. In fact maybe we should start warming up the planet as much as we can now, because once global winter sets in, we'll all kick ourselves for buying priuses...

jimbo · 04-17-2008, 06:32 PM

Give 'em an inch... If we ever get to 75 mpg, they will demand 100. Econazis are never satisfied.

vanshmack · 04-17-2008, 06:32 PM

Actually, it's already begun...

FOXNews.com - Evidence of Global Cooling - Brit Hume | Special Report

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Originally Posted by blkwrxsti

Leave the cows be - I have it on good authority that the world will get very cold and dark in the year 2036 anyway...

http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html

1 in 450 - that's got to be at least as good as the odds on global warming. In fact maybe we should start warming up the planet as much as we can now, because once global winter sets in, we'll all kick ourselves for buying priuses...

Carguy · 04-17-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Now are you guys starting to understand what the "global climate change" movement is really about?

((AMEN BRO!!)) And this is only the start of all this people! Our freedoms will continue to DIE and property rights DIE but there will STILL be people who will continue to defend this CRAP!!

I-Love-Pontiac · 04-17-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

What if we just stick E-Flex into every single car?? 150 MPG all around, with gas and diesel and possibly hydrogen still in the mix.

What about the people who don't have 40k to spend on a car?

Hunid Racks · 04-17-2008, 06:41 PM

You do realise that global warming is all our fault and the only way to fix it is to buy stuff that isn't made here.

And we also have to give away everything we have now to "make things right".

I may have guilt for a lot of things I've done but I'll be damned if politicians and talking heads are going to make me feel guilty for being born an American.

ColoradoZQ8 · 04-17-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EldoFan

75MPG?? Good luck trying to get that passed......

If an '88 Honda CRX was able to get at most, 51MPG or so.......I have a hard time believing even the Asian big 3 would be able to meet this, let alone our big 3.

Hell, they'd prolly stand with us in opposition vs. the environazis......

Well,

If everyone rode to work on a Kawasaki Ninja (250 cc) -- is probably the only way this would ever happen.

soloyosh · 04-17-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

Well,

If everyone rode to work on a Kawasaki Ninja (250 cc) -- is probably the only way this would ever happen.

The roads would be a lot less congested too.

roteague · 04-17-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Now are you guys starting to understand what the "global climate change" movement is really about?

Here in Hawaii we are doing our best to help with global climate change. Our volcanoes have been recalibrated to dump upwards of 2000 tones of Sulphur dioxide into the air, and who knows how much CO2.

ghughes · 04-17-2008, 07:29 PM

you americans created global warming with your big trucks - now its time to pay the piper and clean the air- BWhhahhhaa - & ban booze and cigs and chewing tobacco while we are at it. Lets all take light-rail!!! (trying to echo whats inside inside enviroweinies & lefties heads)

FBODYRULES · 04-17-2008, 07:38 PM

maybe I wrong but why isnt anyone setting new standards for planes which are a larger percentage of the green house problem?

mcmlxv · 04-17-2008, 07:42 PM

These fascists are out of control.

Lunden · 04-17-2008, 08:10 PM

Is anyone starting to understand why Hydrogen is such an important future player in all of this?

Electric cars will basically go no where. Hey folks that lithium has to come from SOMEWHERE... And last I checked it wasn't that abundent. AND in countries we don't like or at the very least HATE!

Hydrogen can be made by anyone. It can be made from processes other than using fossil fuels or crops, and it can be made here.

No doubt about it. Non hybrid Hydrogen cars are if not THE answer will be a big part of it.

OH! and if ANY automaker is still making a gas/petrol burning car by 2020 they should be shut down and disbanded.

Kennyboy · 04-17-2008, 08:24 PM

That is a bunch of hogwash. I believe the government is playing the environmental card in respect in satisfying both the neoenvironmentals and the moderate climate "rancorous" consumer. Trying to reach that mileage estimates are unlikely.

I believe that the market should determine mileage estimates. As gas prices reach 5 dollar a gallon all the poor people will start using public transit and the SUVomibles will have to give up their giant SUVs.

newdude · 04-17-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Now are you guys starting to understand what the "global climate change" movement is really about?

yea but climate change has been going on forever but we are all (not everyone) suckers to those politicians and Al Gore who make it seem like it is a new thing that just started up out of the blue. All I can say is that everyone might as well walk or ride bukes or mopeds like the chinese do...

04-17-2008, 06:32 PM	#32 (permalink)
jimbo 1.4 Liter Turbocharged ECOTEC Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals Give 'em an inch... If we ever get to 75 mpg, they will demand 100. Econazis are never satisfied.

04-17-2008, 06:41 PM	#36 (permalink)
Hunid Racks 2.8 Liter Turbocharged V6 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 760	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals You do realise that global warming is all our fault and the only way to fix it is to buy stuff that isn't made here. And we also have to give away everything we have now to "make things right". I may have guilt for a lot of things I've done but I'll be damned if politicians and talking heads are going to make me feel guilty for being born an American.

04-17-2008, 07:29 PM	#40 (permalink)
ghughes 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Dec 2004 Drives: '98 H1 Open-top HMVEE! '67 Rolls Silver Shadow ' Posts: 1,149	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals you americans created global warming with your big trucks - now its time to pay the piper and clean the air- BWhhahhhaa - & ban booze and cigs and chewing tobacco while we are at it. Lets all take light-rail!!! (trying to echo whats inside inside enviroweinies & lefties heads)

04-17-2008, 07:38 PM	#41 (permalink)
FBODYRULES News Contributor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: little NewZealand Drives: CLASSIC AMERICAN see homepage url Posts: 1,777	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals maybe I wrong but why isnt anyone setting new standards for planes which are a larger percentage of the green house problem? __________________ .................................................. .................................................. ............................................. think of someone that you consider to be of average intelligence... half the worlds population is stupider than that person. I own and drive classics, check them here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/621647

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mcmlxv 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Drives: 2001 Buick Park Avenue. The 4-door Riviera. Posts: 140	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals These fascists are out of control. __________________ Buick. Isn't it Time for a Real Car?

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04-17-2008, 08:10 PM	#43 (permalink)
Lunden 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 265	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals Is anyone starting to understand why Hydrogen is such an important future player in all of this? Electric cars will basically go no where. Hey folks that lithium has to come from SOMEWHERE... And last I checked it wasn't that abundent. AND in countries we don't like or at the very least HATE! Hydrogen can be made by anyone. It can be made from processes other than using fossil fuels or crops, and it can be made here. No doubt about it. Non hybrid Hydrogen cars are if not THE answer will be a big part of it. OH! and if ANY automaker is still making a gas/petrol burning car by 2020 they should be shut down and disbanded. __________________ There will be a 3.5-litre V6 version next year, for idiots to buy. Why would you want that? It's like popping into the dragon shop for a pet and coming out with a poodle. Richard Hammond on the Dodge Challenger.

04-17-2008, 08:24 PM	#44 (permalink)
Kennyboy 4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Drives: Caddy CTS Posts: 1,845	Re: EPA Director: 75 mpg CAFE needed to reach CO2 emissions goals That is a bunch of hogwash. I believe the government is playing the environmental card in respect in satisfying both the neoenvironmentals and the moderate climate "rancorous" consumer. Trying to reach that mileage estimates are unlikely. I believe that the market should determine mileage estimates. As gas prices reach 5 dollar a gallon all the poor people will start using public transit and the SUVomibles will have to give up their giant SUVs. __________________

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