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Join Date: Feb 2006
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DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
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This is really big news. Butanol is an alcohol with a molecular structure slightly different than ethanol. The difference makes butanol a much better replacement of gasoline. It has more energy than ethanol (thus, no reduction in mileage) and there are no cold start problems. Better yet, you can run any gasoline powered car on 100% butanol without any changes. Unlike ethanol, butanol is not corrosive. The reason ethanol has a head start in the marketplace is that it is cheaper to make. If DuPont can figure out how to make biobutanol in a commercially viable way, it will be a big step toward freedom from imported oil. |
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
Nice, I have read that butanol can be used in place of gas in most any car. If it's right, it would be a more viable alternative since more cars on the road could use it.
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
One man's story:
http://www.butanol.com/ Since it is an alcohol, it will have a higher octane rating, so there would bne no reason it could not run in high compression motors. |
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1.8 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
This stuff can directly replace gasoline without any modifications tcurrent equipment, cars or gas stations. You would think this stuff would be being studied by the goverment to make it cost effective. Imagine the year 2030. The US is the biggest exporter of a direct replacement fuel for gasoline. Corn grown in America turned into fuel for automobiles. But yet the oil tycoons George W Bush included would never let this happen. I dont think we will see a direct replacement of fossil fuels until they run out. Then, all of the sudden, something like this will come along and we will be fine. Its all about milking the conusmer for ever last penny he has.
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5.3 Liter Vortec V8
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
It would make sense to adopt this for mass consumers and let heavy industry and power companies continue to use oil for their needs.
Thanks for the info, it's very interesting. |
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
how would this be dispersed across the country tho? can i go to say true value or any local harware store and by gallons of this stuff? will there be butanol stations? thats the major problem with any type of new fuel- theres no distribution network.
edit: just read through the article. since dupont is partnered with bp, does it seem feasible that most of the current amoco-bp gas stations can be converted to carry at least one pump of butanol? that would be awesome- i have to bp's within 5 mins of my house and im sure theres an amoco or bp near my school somewhere.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
What will be the price per gallon? Will it contain different octane ratings?
I'm not critcizing, just hoping for the best. |
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
Nice!
Nothing I like to hear more, than advancement of the opportunity to keep from putting money in Arabs pockets.
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
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Thanks for this! Now if biobutanl can be made from agricultural waste vs. corn or other food crops this would be near-perfect until we make the full switch to solar and hydrogen. |
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
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How nice to see a viable alternative to petroleum-based fuels that can allegedly be used in existing engines. Personally, I'd pay a premium to use a US-produced butanol fuel. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Houston, TX
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Re: DuPont "well on its way" to selling biobutanol this year
Can E85 capable vehicles handle biobutanol also? That would be pretty awesome if it could, especially with the backing of Dupont having it you by the end of the year.
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