Delta II family of cars to debut in Paris?

[nadepalma]

Sorry if this is a repost...Didn't see it anywhere.

SOURCE: Motor Authority

GM to present Delta family of cars at Paris Motor Show
Posted on Friday 16 May 2008

GM’s Delta compact FWD platform, currently used in cars Opel (Saturn) Astra, Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5, is due for an update this year and the first new-generation model is set to appear at October’s Paris Motor Show. Some of the cars expected to be based on the revised platform include the next-generation Opel Astra, the Saab 9-1 and a four-door Chevrolet sedan to replace the Daewoo-sourced Lacetti and Cobalt.

The new Chevrolet sedan will be roughly the same size the Volkswagen Jetta and will go into production shortly after its world debut at the Paris Motor Show. The new sedan is being designed as a global model and will eventually be sold in Europe, North America and Asia. In North America the new model is expected to replace the current Chevrolet Cobalt.

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[throwback]

I read in Motor Trend the next gen Cobalt will be on the Gamma platform. Perhaps the European "Cobalt" will be on Delta 2?

[pgill00]

I think that a bigger 4-door Cobalt is going to leave only a small amount of room between it and the Malibu and Impala. That is not totally bad except that to reach the Cobalt price point they are going to have to limit the content to a certain extent. I hope that does not rule out my dreams of a nice Cobalt sedan with 18" wheels for under $20k.

[rs02cavi]

Why do they have to make every replacement bigger and bigger. Soon they're going to make something smaller to fit between the cobalt and aveo.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by rs02cavi

Why do they have to make every replacement bigger and bigger. Soon they're going to make something smaller to fit between the cobalt and aveo.

CAFE

[The Law]

The only Delta 2 i would buy would be the new Saab 9-3 or whatever comes of the volt.
seems like Chevy is just becoming re badged Daewoo's, which is bad afterall Chinese will soon be making Buicks for GM.Why would they sell Chevys to South Korans when they already get Daewoo's?

I think something would be done with Pontiac and Hummer!

[nadepalma]

Originally Posted by throwback

I read in Motor Trend the next gen Cobalt will be on the Gamma platform. Perhaps the European "Cobalt" will be on Delta 2?

I wouldn't put any stock in that.

While I love all the car magazines, they've often been wrong. For example, I read one of them the other day that said that the updated version of the Fusion due next year would be based on the EUCD platorm that underpins the Mondeo in Europe -- and that's not the case. It was wrong on its face. The current car is going to refreshend on CD3-2 until Ford merges all their mid-sized car platforms with the next-gen Fusion and Mondeo.

As it relates to the Cobalt, it's replacement is Delta II based. This is confirmed from all we've read. Gamma is the platform slotted below Delta II. Gamma will handle the eventual replacement for the "B-Segment/Subcompact" cars such as the Aveo and, one day, the Corsa. It will also provide the basis for the "A-Segment/City Car" vehicles like the Matiz's eventual replacement (the Beat) - and perhaps one day the Agila (which is built in conjunction with Suzuki).

Sometimes the folks at these various car magazines get the details wrong. Not to sound like a jerk, but collectively the members of GMI probably know as much or more than the guys from the major publications do. Not because we have vast resources or anything, but because we get info as it happens - versus magazines which run on monthly cycles and often reprint info for next month that we've known for weeks, etc.

[t-rex]

Ugh. Misinformation is running rife today.

The Opel Astra is not on Delta, or any Delta derivative. It's an updated GM2700.

The next Cobalt will be on Delta-II, not Gamma.

It's likely the next Cobalt will be at most marginally larger than the current model. We're talking maybe an inch all around, giving it a loooooong way to go before it remotely begins to enroach on Malibu's territory. If anything, I'd guess the Delta-II will be a hair smaller than the Cobalt, to put more in line with global dimensions for this class. At 180 inches in length, the Cobalt's a good 2-5 inches longer than most sedans in this class, and about an inch wider.

[01sunfire01]

the cobalt is smaller then the Jbodys. in my sunfire the back seats had alot more room then in my G5. but the G5 looks longer then my sunfire

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by t-rex

Ugh. Misinformation is running rife today.

The Opel Astra is not on Delta, or any Delta derivative. It's an updated GM2700.

The next Cobalt will be on Delta-II, not Gamma.

It's likely the next Cobalt will be at most marginally larger than the current model. We're talking maybe an inch all around, giving it a loooooong way to go before it remotely begins to enroach on Malibu's territory. If anything, I'd guess the Delta-II will be a hair smaller than the Cobalt, to put more in line with global dimensions for this class. At 180 inches in length, the Cobalt's a good 2-5 inches longer than most sedans in this class, and about an inch wider.

GM2700 is the basis of Delta (in fact GM2700 is the old European naming convention). As of right now "Delta" is a loose term to refer to C-segment cars.

Which always got me. The Gamma is the B-Segment even though Gamma is 3rd letter in the Greek alphabet, Delta is 4th, and Epsilon is 5th (I think). It would make more sense if the platforms where Beta, Gamma, Delta respectively.

[vcs2600]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

It would make more sense if the platforms where Beta, Gamma, Delta respectively.

Don't think anyone would want to buy a "Beta" car

[Jimmy Jive]

So if this new DeltaII Chevrolet world-car, will be the next Cobalt, and will bow this October; then when shall this new Cobalt go on sale in N.A.?

[unkillsam]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Jive

So if this new DeltaII Chevrolet world-car, will be the next Cobalt, and will bow this October; then when shall this new Cobalt go on sale in N.A.?

I would hope that it goes on sale the early 2nd quarter 2009. GM really needs this car bad. Though I doubt we will see it before the 3rd quarter. I hope GM surprises me.

[ctaylorzl1]

Originally Posted by unkillsam

I would hope that it goes on sale the early 2nd quarter 2009. GM really needs this car bad. Though I doubt we will see it before the 3rd quarter. I hope GM surprises me.

Will we even see it 3rd qt? I figure 3rd qt is when we will start seeing Camaros, I kinda doubt we will get Camaros and DII's at the same time. Although I hope we do, the last half of 09 could be big for GM!

[AbsoluteSaab]

GM started to implement Greek named platforms at the start of the millennium.
There is not set structure to the naming and new Greek letters are added as new platforms arrive. Hence Alpha which is in the pipeline comes after Epsilon of Theta for example.