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Old 08-06-2008, 08:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Nice to hear (If you can hear him) Lutz admitt to GM's mistakes and failures. That's the strong key for better products.

What kind of bugged me was when Wagnor said China is GM's jewel.
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I've never cared for Rick Wagoner, to be honest. I was quite upset with that comment, as well.

Lutz admit more than his ego usually does in company flaws, but stopped short of being candidly honest. He said that GM's products are just as good as Toyotas and Hondas. Some are, yes...but why don't we compare the Aveo to the Fit. Yeaah.
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It's repeating at 1am (Eastern).
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That's what I was thinking.

My friend just leaned over and said "Seriously...are they shooting themselves in the foot AGAIN with this car? People already think you need a mullet to drive one of these, do they really want Nascar associated with it?"
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Lord now they're yapping about the Camaro.

I thought this show was focusing on saving GM. The Camaro, as appealing as it is, ain't gonna fit that bill...

I didn't realize exactly HOW MUCH of the Camaro's design was done by Holden.
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I didn't realize exactly HOW MUCH of the Camaro's design was done by Holden.
I always thought I saw Holden in it.

I admit they are focusing a little more on the Camaro than I would like (I'd like to see more focus on the future of small cars), but I want the Camaro bad. Probably won't be able to afford it, though.

I like that they showed them doing that long road test, and when that god-awful blinker went off, the guy goes "Yeah, that's the one for now...but it won't be there tomorrow!" Shows that they are dedicated.
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-75% of it's value in 2 years? HUH!

Stock holders beware, now it is holding "It's saving grace" in a muscle car, promised 3 Years Ago?

I promised this CNBC doc, would be turmoil weeks ago!

A Camaro when they need a new best in class Aveo

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Nice to hear (If you can hear him) Lutz admitt to GM's mistakes and failures. That's the strong key for better products.

What kind of bugged me was when Wagnor said China is GM's jewel.
He's being honest though. The numbers don't lie.
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aaahhhhh..........Camaro. Can't wait to see how this car's going to do.


I should've taped the show.
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Oh, it's going to get heated in the next segment.

A lot of Camaro info and behind the scenes stuff for the Camaro nerds...Big Al, I'm looking your way.
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What the hell? This guy has 32 years, why isn't he retired?
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"...makes the G6 and the Malibu, two of the best selling cars in America."

The Malibu, maybe...I doubt fleet sales for the G6 count .

That worker speaks the truth. Seriously. The workers are taking lay offs and pay cuts, while the CEOs are getting bonuses back.

I don't care if you like the UAW or not, but that's just not right...$16 million dollars for Wagoner when the company lost $23 million. Sorry pal, you're not worth that.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Look at Rick sweat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that hyper-defensive tone of voice!
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Look at Rick sweat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that hyper-defensive tone of voice!
Boy...Rick's really got this whole "global" thing on his mind. I wonder if he's shifted his primary focus globally rather than fixing this bleeding going on in the US.

The UAW worker they've been interviewing makes a great deal of sense to me. He's probably made the best sense of anyone who has spoken yet.
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I like that UAW guy's attitude. He's very realistic, pointing out that while it's unfortunate that people lose their jobs, it's a part of life that others outside the UAW encounter, and live to tell about.

And ewwwww some of those plant workers were mighty scuzzy lookin'!
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