CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM

Perian · 09-26-2005, 01:25 PM

Link: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050926/canad...alks.html?.v=2

CAW Union Leader More Upbeat About Talks
Monday September 26, 12:53 pm ET
By Beth Duff-Brown, Associated Press Writer

TORONTO (AP) -- The president of the Canadian Auto Workers union said Monday that labor talks with General Motors Corp. had progressed over the weekend and he was optimistic that a looming strike by some 22,000 workers could be averted.

But CAW president Buzz Hargrove, who set a strike deadline for midnight Tuesday, cautioned there were still key contentions that could derail the talks, mainly a desire by GM to cut two minutes from the relief breaks that workers get on assembly lines and the possible outsourcing of construction work in Ontario plants.

General Motors did not immediately return calls Monday.

"We're close enough to do this, but far enough away to fall in the ditch," Hargrove told a news conference. "We're feeling somewhat better this morning, although we're not there."

He said that GM -- which led the Big Three automakers with revenues last year, but is saddled with huge health care and pension liabilities -- had agreed in principle with the union's requests.

Article continues at link.

Perian · 09-26-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Perian

He said that GM -- which led the Big Three automakers with revenues last year, but is saddled with huge health care and pension liabilities -- had agreed in principle with the union's requests.

Now this is simply my opinion, but it just doesn't sound like GM is garnering major concessions on health care and pension reform as promised by corporate leaders recently...

01cavalier · 09-26-2005, 05:42 PM

Well, at least with the CAW healthcare isn't a concession, though its too bad that they seem to not want to make concessions to GM to help...

desmo9 · 09-26-2005, 07:32 PM

Wagoner's too yellow to do what's gotta be done. If he doesn't get the concessions, particularly with the UAW, the company's gonna be so close to going broke, that'll be the end of his job.

plane · 09-26-2005, 08:49 PM

Dear Rick,

It's either our way or the highway.
Especially since you seem to have a severe [name of body part] deficiency.
Bend over while we kick you some more, fancy lad.
BTW, you will writhe in screaming agony surrounded by burning flames before those two minutes ever provide any meaningful work.
We own you.
Have a nice Day!

Your friend Buzz

paul3230 · 09-26-2005, 08:54 PM

Dude..he lists the fact that GM want's to cut 2 minutes off the break time as a major sticking point??? WTF

Perian · 09-26-2005, 09:21 PM

9:25PM 09/26/05: Wall Street Journal reporting GM has made an offer to the CAW. No details available.

LI CADILLAC · 09-26-2005, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plane

Dear Rick,

It's either our way or the highway.
Especially since you seem to have a severe [name of body part] deficiency.
Bend over while we kick you some more, fancy lad.
BTW, you will writhe in screaming agony surrounded by burning flames before those two minutes ever provide any meaningful work.
We own you.
Have a nice Day!

Your friend Buzz

AT FIRST I LAUGHED, BUT NOW........

LI CADILLAC · 09-26-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI CADILLAC

AT FIRST I LAUGHED, BUT NOW........

AND I DONT DRIVE A GEO METRO, I DONT KNOW WHY IT SAYS THAT UNDER MY USER NAME, IT SHOULD SAY, 04 CAD CTS 3.6L

Mvortec24 · 09-26-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI CADILLAC

AND I DONT DRIVE A GEO METRO, I DONT KNOW WHY IT SAYS THAT UNDER MY USER NAME, IT SHOULD SAY, 04 CAD CTS 3.6L

what are u talking about that changes as your post more.

SteveWallace · 09-26-2005, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by li Cadillac

and I Dont Drive A Geo Metro, I Dont Know Why It Says That Under My User Name, It Should Say, 04 Cad Cts 3.6l

Sorry Can You Speak Up Please??

Besides, we know that you do, our intel is good...

VivienM · 09-26-2005, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI CADILLAC

AND I DONT DRIVE A GEO METRO, I DONT KNOW WHY IT SAYS THAT UNDER MY USER NAME, IT SHOULD SAY, 04 CAD CTS 3.6L

It's the user ranking system.

Post 2000 more posts, and you'll be a 4.6L Northstar... 5000 more, and you'll be a Cadillac V16, etc.

VivienM · 09-26-2005, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul3230

Dude..he lists the fact that GM want's to cut 2 minutes off the break time as a major sticking point??? WTF

If that's the major sticking point, then it means that most of the hard issues got resolved...

Tomorrow they'll announce a 1 minute cut in the break time, is my bet.

Perian · 09-27-2005, 08:07 AM

MarketWatch
Market Pulse: CAW union says still talking with GM
Tuesday September 27, 6:30 am ET
By Steve Goldstein

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The Canadian CAW union said it's still in talks with General Motors though "a lot of work remains." The union said in a statement that seven subcommittees have wrapped up bargaining, but the local bargaining committees and the remaining subcommittees will be working on outstanding issues including job security.

tgagneguam · 09-27-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivienM

It's the user ranking system.

Post 2000 more posts, and you'll be a 4.6L Northstar... 5000 more, and you'll be a Cadillac V16, etc.

Just to clarify, posting for the sake of simply advancing your rank is discouraged, I think...

09-26-2005, 01:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Perian News Contributor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York Drives: 2008 Saab 9-5 Sedan Posts: 4,069	CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM Link: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050926/canad...alks.html?.v=2 CAW Union Leader More Upbeat About Talks Monday September 26, 12:53 pm ET By Beth Duff-Brown, Associated Press Writer TORONTO (AP) -- The president of the Canadian Auto Workers union said Monday that labor talks with General Motors Corp. had progressed over the weekend and he was optimistic that a looming strike by some 22,000 workers could be averted. But CAW president Buzz Hargrove, who set a strike deadline for midnight Tuesday, cautioned there were still key contentions that could derail the talks, mainly a desire by GM to cut two minutes from the relief breaks that workers get on assembly lines and the possible outsourcing of construction work in Ontario plants. General Motors did not immediately return calls Monday. "We're close enough to do this, but far enough away to fall in the ditch," Hargrove told a news conference. "We're feeling somewhat better this morning, although we're not there." He said that GM -- which led the Big Three automakers with revenues last year, but is saddled with huge health care and pension liabilities -- had agreed in principle with the union's requests. Article continues at link.

09-26-2005, 05:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
01cavalier 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, OR Drives: 2007 Cobalt Posts: 4,818	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM Well, at least with the CAW healthcare isn't a concession, though its too bad that they seem to not want to make concessions to GM to help...

09-26-2005, 07:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
desmo9 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,721	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM Wagoner's too yellow to do what's gotta be done. If he doesn't get the concessions, particularly with the UAW, the company's gonna be so close to going broke, that'll be the end of his job.

09-26-2005, 08:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
plane 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Just right here Drives: 1980 'Vette Posts: 4,972	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM Dear Rick, It's either our way or the highway. Especially since you seem to have a severe [name of body part] deficiency. Bend over while we kick you some more, fancy lad. BTW, you will writhe in screaming agony surrounded by burning flames before those two minutes ever provide any meaningful work. We own you. Have a nice Day! Your friend Buzz __________________ Of all the properties which belong to honorable men, not one is so highly prized as that of character. Henry Clay

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paul3230 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,721	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM Dude..he lists the fact that GM want's to cut 2 minutes off the break time as a major sticking point??? WTF __________________

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09-26-2005, 09:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Perian News Contributor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York Drives: 2008 Saab 9-5 Sedan Posts: 4,069	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM 9:25PM 09/26/05: Wall Street Journal reporting GM has made an offer to the CAW. No details available.

09-27-2005, 08:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Perian News Contributor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York Drives: 2008 Saab 9-5 Sedan Posts: 4,069	Re: CAW Leader Reports Progress With GM MarketWatch Market Pulse: CAW union says still talking with GM Tuesday September 27, 6:30 am ET By Steve Goldstein LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The Canadian CAW union said it's still in talks with General Motors though "a lot of work remains." The union said in a statement that seven subcommittees have wrapped up bargaining, but the local bargaining committees and the remaining subcommittees will be working on outstanding issues including job security.

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