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Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
Link: http://www.saturnfans.com/cgi-bin/links/jump.cgi?ID=1
LAS VEGAS -- Don't call it a comeback, but General Motors is seeing surprising interest in what's rapidly becoming an anachronism, the stick shift. According to consultancy AutoPacific, only about 5% of U.S. buyers opt for a manual transmission in new cars and trucks -- though it can range up to 25% for performance cars such as the Ford Mustang. Among the about 7,000 enthusiasts who've pre-ordered Camaros -- Chevrolet's revival of the Mustang rival -- the most popular accessory is a racing-style, short-throw shifter for the six-speed manual transmission. The $378 dealer-installed shifter is by Hurst, a name famous as the choice for 1960s muscle cars with the old "4-on-the-floor" manual transmissions. Full article at link. |
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
I disagree with the article that stick shifts will disappear. Maybe they will due to the government not trusting anyone to do anything themselves, but unless something like that happens, lots of performance car buyers will demand a manual transmission. I love manual transmissions not just because they are more fun to drive, but they are much easier to maintain.
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
When can you start ordering the convertible Camaro?
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
The final year of the GTO had a 62% manual shift take rate.
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
I would order a manual as this car would be my summer fun car.
If I only had the cash and an extra garage for her. :-( |
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
Good, a manual trans is the way to go.
![]() Can't decide if my replacement for the Camaro will be the 5th Gen. Camaro or a G8. Decisions decisions........
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
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For those who are pains in the butt like me and prefer to shift for themselves, I welcome the news! Quote:
I remember reading an article from one of the big car magazines years ago. The column basically said that no matter what happens in the future, a manual tranmission will also be a part of the romance of driving a car, especially a sports car. The author cited the reasons why and then said something like, "And even if they take manual transmissions out of every car out there, and the only stick shift equipped cars left in the world were Soviet era Yugos being built in Serbia, you'd find stick drivers like me there patiently waiting to plop down their dollars and take one home." I don't remember the columnist or which American car magazine it was, but it was nicely said. Wow, that's a hell of a statistic. I have to say, the most recent GTO will probably be one of those great aftermarket cars out there in the years ahead. They imported enough of them and its a lot of car for the money. A few years from now they will be a performace bargain and could see a loyal aftermarket following. It kind of reminds me of the Fiero, the 94-96 Impala, etc -- perhaps under apprecited in their time but certainly enjoyed a second life after production ended. But that's just me....
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
Well the only way to get a stick in a G8 is to wait one full year for the 2010 G8 GXP with the 6.2L engine!
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
nice to see the have many orders..
i just hope it does not die off in the future. |
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
Second. With the cost for a new vehicle expected to accelerate due to the new CAFE and ongoing safety standards, people will also look to save costs any way they can.
I'll go even further than nadepalma and say I believe there will be a decent increase in manual sales in the US. Automatics can be a $1,500 option on some vehicles. I expect many would rather save money and row their own boat instead. I also live just outside Philadelphia and don't believe the traffic issue would trump the savings either. Oh, I also expect a moderate return in coupes, as I personally believe that most of those sales over the past 20 years have been lost to 'truck drivers who don't need/use no stinkin truck'. .02
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
Long live the manual! It drive me crazy you can't get one on more cars, unless you buy a base model, blah.
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
I predict sometime in the next 4-8 years, a mandate comes down banning manual transmissions in cars due to an "obvious and dangerous driver distraction". The safetycrats will also point the finger at the fact that most stickshift cars sold in the US are high-performance variants, and thus these vehicles are wasteful and dangerous from the get-go.
As our government inches closer and closer to a nanny state, I fully expect all this to happen..."for our own good", of course. |
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
I find this very encouraging. I much prefer manual, and hope that they last for a long time to come. People need to get out and buy more manuals-transmission cars to encourage the manufacturers to keep them as an option! One potential plus is that manuals are MUCH more popular than automatics in Europe... so with luck manufacturers can justify offering manual transmission vehicles in North America if they can use the same transmission in Europe and elsewhere.
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Re: Camaro Has 7,000 Orders - And One Very Popular Option: The Hurst Shifter
I love manuals as well....I hope the Hurst in this next Camaro is a hell of a lot better than the POS offered in the 4th Gen cars.
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