Cadillac XTS and Buick Regal Confirmed! - Page 3

A.J. · 07-02-2009, 07:08 AM

At least a new DTS/XTS is happening. I'd rather have it FWD-based than nothing at all.

But the Regal...2011? Has GM learned anything from the Astra?

Myke · 07-02-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by A.J.

At least a new DTS/XTS is happening. I'd rather have it FWD-based than nothing at all.

To be honest I'd prefer Cadillac's absence from the full-size luxury market if this is the case. I honestly can't see how a Epsilon car could compete with 7/S. The LaCrosse already has... ungainly overhangs, I can't imagine what the XTS will look like...

dindak · 07-02-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by plane

2013 is too long to wait for a new Impala.
If you can't replace it before then, at least give it a 6 speed transmission and a direct injected engine.

I agree. A facelift, a 6 speed and a 3.0L DI engine would go a long way if we have to wait this long. Personally, I think GM needs to get on a new Impala for 2011.

That all said, I am very excited to see the Regal coming!

Ambalanche · 07-02-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YupYupYup

Production is slated to start in December 2011.

The Buick Regal, to start in Oshawa in August 2011 [/b][/url]

August 2011 for the Regal? Are you kidding me? That's two years away!! That car will be three years old by then! December 2011 for the new Large Cadillac? So the DTS will flounder around for two and a half more years? This needs to be accellerated!

Mikkoo · 07-02-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cad1cts

This whole thing makes me sick....What exactly is the point of the Sigma platform? Just the CTS sedan, coupe and wagon?? WTF is up with that?

Another dumb move by GM, that's what up.! No Cadillac product should have FWD.!!
Especially if they want to even think about increasing their meager sales in Europe.
Makes you wonder if they will do away with Sigma, then put the CTS on a FWD platform.
If so, GM is brain dead.!!!

TJ95GAGT · 07-02-2009, 08:03 AM

It's a shame Zeta won't be used for anything besides the Camaro in NA. I don't get it seems like a great platform so far. What a waste of development money and a great platform.

I guses GM wasn't awake when they launched the Aura and Astra 2-3 years after thier European counterpart, why is it going to take 2 years to bring a nearly identical car to NA? I realize it costs money but it would bring in money that Buick and GMC are going to be missing having a entry level car. Seems to me it would be a better overall scenario if all the markets were more on the same schedule.

I guess the only affordable RWD option is going to be Hyundai with thier Genesis for new car buyers. I guess there is always the used market.

ZR2BlaZeR2 · 07-02-2009, 08:04 AM

It looks like business as usual from General Motors. I'm sure the XTS will be a stunner and a very, very good car as will the Buick and Impala. But FWD should never be an option for Cadillac. And if the Impala is not RWD, where does it fit in Chevy's lineup w/ the Malibu. Just don't build it.

I don't understand why, if they can run a driveshaft for AWD (which I'm assuming they will do) why not just build the thing the proper way?

What does this say for the next gen CTS? FAIL

Ambalanche · 07-02-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

1)
3) Explore what makes XJ, S, 7, and A8 so successful. Options. Customizations. Technology. Innovations. Everything that USED to be associated with Cadillac.

Yes, Explore what makes XJ SOOO successful....The new one isn't out yet and I'd HARDLY call the current model successful!

**zete** · 07-02-2009, 08:25 AM

I was hoping we'd see Regals later this year, imported from China or Europe. There's no reason not to have them here sooner. Sigh.

I wish Cadillac had gone back to names. Call this new XTS the LaSalle. And make it Voltec-powered and I really don't care what the platform is. As mgescuro says, make it a showcase and do it right otherwise it won't be taken seriously. A Voltec XTS/LaSalle would be what I'd like to see and what I'd do were I heading GM.

One thing the article doesn't mention is that mysterious hybrid Oshawa is slated to do. What car is that? The Regal? Impala? XTS?

K-1 · 07-02-2009, 08:34 AM

If they're making a luxury, FWD, floaty boat, it should be a Buick. WTF is the STS then? WTF is running this company?

FenwickHockey65 · 07-02-2009, 08:37 AM

Definitely needs to be accelerated...

Then again, everyone here should've already known about the FWD XTS.

neshapop · 07-02-2009, 08:39 AM

Good news for Oshawa, but bad news for GM buyers, Insignia will be stale by 2011 and another cheapskate luxury product buy Cadillac.

K-1 · 07-02-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by neshapop

Insignia will be stale by 2011

Just in time for a MCE.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-02-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by K-1

Just in time for a MCE.

Wasn't the Regal supposed to be an updated Insignia anyways?

K-1 · 07-02-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Wasn't the Regal supposed to be an updated Insignia anyways?

Exactly.

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TJ95GAGT 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: DE Drives: 09 G8 GT Posts: 1,010	Re: Cadillac XTS and Buick Regal Confirmed! It's a shame Zeta won't be used for anything besides the Camaro in NA. I don't get it seems like a great platform so far. What a waste of development money and a great platform. I guses GM wasn't awake when they launched the Aura and Astra 2-3 years after thier European counterpart, why is it going to take 2 years to bring a nearly identical car to NA? I realize it costs money but it would bring in money that Buick and GMC are going to be missing having a entry level car. Seems to me it would be a better overall scenario if all the markets were more on the same schedule. I guess the only affordable RWD option is going to be Hyundai with thier Genesis for new car buyers. I guess there is always the used market. Last edited by TJ95GAGT : 07-02-2009 at 08:31 AM.

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ZR2BlaZeR2 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Steeltown Drives: 2002 Chevy Blazer RPO ZR2 Posts: 179	Re: Cadillac XTS and Buick Regal Confirmed! It looks like business as usual from General Motors. I'm sure the XTS will be a stunner and a very, very good car as will the Buick and Impala. But FWD should never be an option for Cadillac. And if the Impala is not RWD, where does it fit in Chevy's lineup w/ the Malibu. Just don't build it. I don't understand why, if they can run a driveshaft for AWD (which I'm assuming they will do) why not just build the thing the proper way? What does this say for the next gen CTS? FAIL __________________ "If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow." ~ John Wayne "Drink your drugs! Don't do milk!" ~ Mr.T

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zete GMI Staff Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NCR, Great White North Posts: 5,304	Re: Cadillac XTS and Buick Regal Confirmed! I was hoping we'd see Regals later this year, imported from China or Europe. There's no reason not to have them here sooner. Sigh. I wish Cadillac had gone back to names. Call this new XTS the LaSalle. And make it Voltec-powered and I really don't care what the platform is. As mgescuro says, make it a showcase and do it right otherwise it won't be taken seriously. A Voltec XTS/LaSalle would be what I'd like to see and what I'd do were I heading GM. One thing the article doesn't mention is that mysterious hybrid Oshawa is slated to do. What car is that? The Regal? Impala? XTS? __________________ To appeal to enthusiasts GM needs to build on a flexible platform and be able to build small numbers and do it profitably. Hopefully we'll see some of that in the future with Alpha and Zeta, assuming the latter survives.

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