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Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
by: FP Trading Desk posted on: July 11, 2008 America’s Motor City automakers are experiencing one of the most severe downturns in history, one that will require more cash and more time for them to adjust to the new realities of gasoline above $4 a gallon and rising prices for steel and other commodities. But in the event that Ford Motor Co. (F), General Motors Corp. (GM) or Chrysler LLC is unable to shore up more liquidity, the automakers could be more likely to try a recapitalization than a bankruptcy protection filing, argues Citigroup Global Markets analyst Itay Michaeli. "The carmakers would likely see more harm than good done to enterprise value during the Chapter 11 process, as one cannot predict consumers’ predilection for buying vehicles from a bankrupt automaker." Any meaningful loss of market share that could come from such a consumer abandonment would likely hurt all stakeholders, including bondholders, unions, shareholders, captive finance companies, alliance partners and existing customers, he argues. "Ironically, because one [automaker’s] bankruptcy filing could potentially provide some volume improvements to the others, domestic [manufacturers] may shun strategic filings in order to ‘outlive’ their competitors." Rather, Mr. Michaeli argues that the option of a distressed workout scenario would likely be more palatable. He says such a workout could involve such actions like balance sheet recapitalizations through debt-equity exchanges, further labor concessions, alliance or merger and acquisitions options, or fresh debt financing. "In GM’s case, we could envision a scenario where the company restructures its unsecured debt while simultaneously negotiating better labour terms and new financing, possibly with a strategic partner." Such talks would be complex, he says. But the alternative – seeing so many customers abandon you that you can’t recover – may be worse. More here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/8453...y?source=yahoo
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
Wake me up when this is over!
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
An interesting and intelligent article, with some real insight, and a refreshing change from most of the media and financial "commentary" in recent days.
That's the big question: the prediliction of customers buying cars from a bankrupt company. Will they, or won't they? Whilst there may be a short-lived boom in sales, similar to the one which accompanied BMW's dumping of Rover Group in 2000, prospective customers must be asking themselves what will happen to resale values and servicing facilities in the future. The big one, though, is the likely stigma of buying such a big-ticket item as a car or truck from a bankrupt company, and thus allying oneself with failure as opposed to the never-ending success that is Toyota/Honda, etc.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
When General Motors ran into trouble in 1909 and 1920 they recaptialized with the help of New York bankers and the DuPonts, respectively.
A creditable article on General Motors potential liquidity problems is in today's Detroit News, "Wagoner Seeks to Quell General Motors Bankruptcy Speculation." David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, states that the probability of a GM bankruptcy is "low but it's not zero," "There are a lot of cards they can play," and "They have extremely valuable assets; they have a lot of arrows in the quiver." |
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
If they had the car I wanted, without a doubt.
Toss me the keys to that $20,000 ZR1, thank you. I'll fix it with Ferrari parts.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
Bankruptcy would not mean the end of GM, just a reorganization and a drop in their debts.
The problem is not whether people will buy from GM rather it is the unknown of how many people won't just because of the bankruptcy. Besides, shooting for bankruptcy is just not good business practice. It not only hurts stock holders and the company it also hurts hard working tax payers.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
All this negative crap about GM is written as fairly and in the manner of the question -
'Did you stop beating your wife yet' ? Toyota and some of it's more athletic - supporters must be really nervous about something.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
Exactly! But you have to remember that only in American can you get paid millions to run a company into the ground that makes things that most people must have and then actually have support from people who make relatively little money (taxpayers) on a bail out.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
I agree, I have a feeling that at least some of the issue is due to fear of the Volt.
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
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Why would Dupont want to invest in GM? The company is worth less than $10B, there are hundreds of corporations out there capable of buying GM on any given day and nobody is knocking on the door. |
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
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The only person who will skate through Chapter 11 mostly unhurt is Rick... His pension is guaranteed REGARDLESS if GM is solvent or not.
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How many shares of GM do you own? If you love GM and if you love Rick, BUY SOME! They're going cheap only $20.00, nope 15.50, nope 14.77, nope 13.77... CRAP $11.50 OMG 10.06 Stop the presses! The turnaround has begun... we are back trading in the 12's Never mind back in the 10's, 9's, 8's, 7's, 6's, 5's, 4's, 3's $2's, 1.70 Anyone Surprised?
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
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By the end of next week we will be worth less then $5Billion... This morning the market cap was BARELY over $5.1 Billion. For a company with 150Billion in assets 5.5Billion is a give-a-way price... you just have to ignore the 184Billion in liabilities and the monthly net operating loss of almost a Billion.
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How many shares of GM do you own? If you love GM and if you love Rick, BUY SOME! They're going cheap only $20.00, nope 15.50, nope 14.77, nope 13.77... CRAP $11.50 OMG 10.06 Stop the presses! The turnaround has begun... we are back trading in the 12's Never mind back in the 10's, 9's, 8's, 7's, 6's, 5's, 4's, 3's $2's, 1.70 Anyone Surprised?
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Re: Big Three Automakers: Recapitalization or Bankruptcy?
and throw in the mix a $15,000 Escalade and they can have my business
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