The 8-Speeds Are Coming

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    The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    GMI hears the latest regarding GM's plan to roll out eight-speed transmissions.
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    February 17, 2012
    By: Nick Saporito


    Much like the six-speed automatic became the new standard across most General Motors products a few years ago, the eight-speed automatic is about to proliferate GM from the top down. Recently many rumors have surfaced regarding the state of eight-speed automatic development at GM; many wondering when the company will first introduce their own. GMI has obtained further details surrounding GM's eight-speed automatic plans, when they will roll out and on which models.

    Today GM almost exclusively utilizes their own six-speed automatics, all part of the legendary Hydra-Matic transmission line. GMI hears that exclusive use of internal engineering will likely come to an end with eight-speed automatics. Expect GM to purchase eight-speed units from outside suppliers for certain applications, specifically ones with turbo V-6 engines. With that said, GM is still working on a few home-grown eight's as well.

    GMI has learned that the Hydra-Matic line will derive an eight-speed automatic for rear-wheel drive use first. The rear-wheel drive unit will likely first show up in the next-generation Cadillac CTS, but not at launch. According to sources familiar with eight-speed development, the unit will not be ready for production until 2016 model-year. As GMI has reported, the new CTS will land in 2014 model-year.

    Expect the eight-speed to quickly trickle down to the Cadillac ATS as well. GMI has also been told the eight-speed will be in the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette and Camaro, both of which come as no surprise. GMI sources have not been able to confirm if the eight-speeds will also end up in GM's next generation full size trucks, but that is a likely a safe bet as well.

    As of now it appears GM's eight-speed strategy is similar to the roll-out strategy of their six-speed automatics; start at the top and work down. Expect to start hearing formal verbiage on the new eight's in late 2014 or 2015.
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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    4 years late and a few dollars short??? Would it be possible for them to use the ZF 8 speed for their Cadillac cars and maybe the Escalade until their own is ready? Or will it not work with their current engines?

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    The tooling is sitting in the Toledo plant. Has been since early last year. WTF is taking so long?

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Unacceptable how long this is taking. And then to not have them available at launch for the CTS is even worse. UGH!
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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    4 years?? Damn. Chrysler is going to have an all 8 speed line up in the next two years more than likely. Ford has the DCT (which were bad at first but getting better) and GM is stuck in 6 speed land. I will say this though, GM was the first to come out with widespread 6 speeds so they probably bet the farm on them staying longer.

    Oh well. It'll get here eventually.
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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    GM "Not Available at Launch"

    That should be their motto, f'n ridiculous.


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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    I have often wondered if it made sense for GM or any maker to have their own in-house built trannies. I would think that simply having an exclusive programming of a OEM tranny for their use would be more desirable an no more or less profitable. In fact, I would think GM being what it is, a conglomerate of various companies over the years would simply buy a nice stake in a company like ZF or Borg, which it's could buy both in their entirely without even exhausting it first two 2011 Quarter profits.

    While I'm perfectly happy with my 6speeds, I wish GM would just source an 8speed just to shut some people up .

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    GM is silly, nothing is ever available at launch.. the Just wait until we bring you _________________________ is still alive and well. It gets old after a while. I am sure there is a spreadsheet on Barra's computer saying just how impossible it is to have it available at launch.. that is circulating around GM

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by PearlsRider View Post
    I have often wondered if it made sense for GM or any maker to have their own in-house built trannies. I would think that simply having an exclusive programming of a OEM tranny for their use would be more desirable an no more or less profitable. In fact, I would think GM being what it is, a conglomerate of various companies over the years would simply buy a nice stake in a company like ZF or Borg, which it's could buy both in their entirely without even exhausting it first two 2011 Quarter profits.

    While I'm perfectly happy with my 6speeds, I wish GM would just source an 8speed just to shut some people up .
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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Nice to hear they are coming. It's a long way off when it seems like the CTS and next generation trucks with the next generation V8 both should be getting 8-speeds out of the gate. Is this another delay caused by bankruptcy?

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    The tooling is sitting in the Toledo plant. Has been since early last year. WTF is taking so long?
    Awaiting the engines to mate it to?

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    I think it took GM forever to get on the 6-speed automatic transmission bandwagon but I'm the only person I know with an 8-speed automatic at the moment - so it doesn't feel, to me, that Cadillac is really THAT late with this. I mean - 6 speeds is good. I guess 8 is better but it's not at the front of my wish list. The 4 speed DTS is just ridiculous in 2011, though.
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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    some things its good to control yourself, do not be dependent on others for your core business
    Yea...especially with the quality of some of the crap they are sourcing from China these days. Personally, does it really matter? 6 speeds are plenty for now...I could see it now, "GM delays development of 12 speed transmission, will not be available on 8th gen Camaro at launch." At some point the law of diminishing returns on the amount of gears is going to kick in.

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    Whatever happened to the Two mode?

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    Re: The 8-Speeds Are Coming

    The sky is not falling, because only a select few of the competition has 8 speed automatics right now not even Mercedes even offers an 8 speed automatic in any vehicle for instance.

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