$25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM - Page 2

kenman923 · 10-02-2008, 08:36 PM

I am guessing we will see more Active Fuel Management engines being made.

F14CRAZY · 10-02-2008, 08:53 PM

hmm yeah, does GM have to like state what they're going to use the money for exactly? I spose Congress wouldn't agree if they plan to retool and bring back the 500 ci V8 Cadillac motor

civilzues · 10-02-2008, 09:17 PM

What about a Buick Alpha?
We know that Pontiac was going FWD anyways.

Z284ever · 10-02-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by civilzues

What about a Buick Alpha?
We know that Pontiac was going FWD anyways.

It looks like Buick is getting on Alpha, as is Chevy.

Xenon · 10-02-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenman923

I am guessing we will see more Active Fuel Management engines being made.

The 3.6/HF V6 line, for sure, needs to be more efficient that what it currently is right now. Too bad that GM doesn't want to add AFM to all of their OHC engines.

**zete** · 10-02-2008, 10:03 PM

The only way to save Pontiac is make them sell AWD performance if they're not going RWD. Since Delta and Epsilon both support AWD, do that. If not, what's the entire point of Pontiac? I mean, really. What would be the point?

chevyboy88 · 10-02-2008, 10:19 PM

does this mean we could see a next generation rwd impala and camaro on a stretched alpha platform instead of zeta?? or would the camaro be more likely to keep on the zeta platform?? I would be all for the camaro to get alpha it would probably make it a little smaller and hopefully not so heavy, also it would make a 4 cylinder option sound much better.

Beau · 10-02-2008, 10:39 PM

"However, regardless of these revised plans, NO Alpha product will make it to the Poncho brand; it seems any plans for a RWD G6 are firmly dead."

Well thats the only one I care about... I don't need yet ANOTHER POS pushrod RWD V8, they are dead, people don't want them.

People are excited about the Camaro for the V6 for instance.

tgagneguam · 10-02-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by F14CRAZY

hmm yeah, does GM have to like state what they're going to use the money for exactly? I spose Congress wouldn't agree if they plan to retool and bring back the 500 ci V8 Cadillac motor

Come on, this is America. Of course there won't be strings attached. Corporate welfare for everyone!

civilzues · 10-02-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Z284ever

It looks like Buick is getting on Alpha, as is Chevy.

does anyone have any information on this at all?
and you've just made my day. I should start saving!! I know it will be a while but still.

**sigma** · 10-02-2008, 11:05 PM

If Buick gets an Alpha car (with Zeta car rumors still floating around) I wonder if they will bring back the old Grand National and GNX badges to give the BPG channel an actual performance product of some sort.

stevecmh · 10-02-2008, 11:35 PM

as much as i would like it.. in wisconsin i would more rather have AWD (actually i would love it)... but in gas cruch time is RWD really good..?

jaywestfall · 10-02-2008, 11:42 PM

As John Z once said, "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors." It will be interesting to see just exactly which brand gets this Alpha product first beyond Cadillac. If Holden winds up with one, how can Pontiac not get it?

jmlee0695 · 10-02-2008, 11:49 PM

is the buick alpha by any chance a riviera?

Z284ever · 10-03-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jmlee0695

is the buick alpha by any chance a riviera?

I don't know, but I'm thinking it'll be a sedan.

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kenman923 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Feb 2005 Drives: 2009 Acura TSX Posts: 2,878	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM I am guessing we will see more Active Fuel Management engines being made.

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F14CRAZY 6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dimondale, MI Drives: '89 Buick Reatta Posts: 6,225	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM hmm yeah, does GM have to like state what they're going to use the money for exactly? I spose Congress wouldn't agree if they plan to retool and bring back the 500 ci V8 Cadillac motor __________________ Owner of vehicles powered by a Buick even-fire V6, Chevy 60 degree OHV V6, a big block Buick V8, and a quadrozontal Triple-X08:take your hybrids and shove em up yer ass, i'll take my fuel injection and carburetors, and still make 30+ mpg. and i wont look like a douchebag driving it.

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civilzues 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,825	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM What about a Buick Alpha? We know that Pontiac was going FWD anyways.

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zete GMI Staff Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NCR, Great White North Posts: 5,304	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM The only way to save Pontiac is make them sell AWD performance if they're not going RWD. Since Delta and Epsilon both support AWD, do that. If not, what's the entire point of Pontiac? I mean, really. What would be the point?

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chevyboy88 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 125	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM does this mean we could see a next generation rwd impala and camaro on a stretched alpha platform instead of zeta?? or would the camaro be more likely to keep on the zeta platform?? I would be all for the camaro to get alpha it would probably make it a little smaller and hopefully not so heavy, also it would make a 4 cylinder option sound much better. __________________ She look so cool in her new Camaro It's black as coal and it goes boy, go go go I brought my fight next to her Camaro And when I fire on a smile then she blows, she blows She blows, she blows The only easy day was yesterday

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Beau 2.8 Liter Turbocharged V6 Join Date: Aug 2005 Drives: Single turbo MKIV Supra '08 Aura XR Posts: 883	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM "However, regardless of these revised plans, NO Alpha product will make it to the Poncho brand; it seems any plans for a RWD G6 are firmly dead." Well thats the only one I care about... I don't need yet ANOTHER POS pushrod RWD V8, they are dead, people don't want them. People are excited about the Camaro for the V6 for instance.

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sigma GMI Staff Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In the Galactica CIC Drives: 2005 Chevy Malibu Posts: 3,933	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM If Buick gets an Alpha car (with Zeta car rumors still floating around) I wonder if they will bring back the old Grand National and GNX badges to give the BPG channel an actual performance product of some sort. __________________ "The best committee is the committee of one" -Bob Lutz

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stevecmh 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Muskego, WI Drives: 04' Grand Prix GT 08' Pierce Impel Ladder Truck Posts: 3,865	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM as much as i would like it.. in wisconsin i would more rather have AWD (actually i would love it)... but in gas cruch time is RWD really good..?

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jaywestfall 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston, TX Drives: 1984 Pontiac Bonneville Posts: 368	Re: $25 Billion Auto Bailout may mean some RWD projects will move forward at GM As John Z once said, "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors." It will be interesting to see just exactly which brand gets this Alpha product first beyond Cadillac. If Holden winds up with one, how can Pontiac not get it? __________________ Pontiac: Now I'm daily Driving Excitement with history! Holden, please give us compelling product in NA again, soon Member of The: I will never buy a Japanese car in my life Club

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