2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

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    2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say
    Automotive News
    January 4, 2013
    by Theresa Clift

    The average fuel economy of new vehicles sold in 2012 rose to 23.8 mpg, University of Michigan researchers said today, up from 22.5 mpg in 2011 and the highest since the researchers began tracking full-year data in 2008.

    Increased demand for cars and alternative-fuel vehicles last year contributed to the rise, University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute researchers Michael Sivak and Brandon Schoettle reported.

    Average fuel economy is calculated based on mpg figures posted on window stickers of new cars and light trucks sold.

    Cars are generally more fuel efficient than light trucks, which include pickups, SUVs, crossovers and minivans.

    U.S. car sales rose 18 percent in 2012, outpacing the 9 percent gain in light-truck volume. Mid-sized sedans, compacts and minicars such as the Chevrolet Spark, Smart ForTwo, Fiat 500 and Scion iQ outpaced the overall U.S. light-vehicle market’s gains.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    more and more "GOOD" cars available from all makers helps
    IE GM sonic/Cruze/ Varano/ ATS

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    but did they correct for Hyundai's EPA mishap?

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    People are discovering that with well designed vehicles, a V6 is not essential for good performance.
    GM, Ford and Chrysler need to keep on with developing and offering better Turbocharged I-4s

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    The mpg figure helped by the shift to cars and away from light trucks as cars have higher avg than trucks.

    so all in all - big whoop

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyG View Post
    The mpg figure helped by the shift to cars and away from light trucks as cars have higher avg than trucks.

    so all in all - big whoop
    Be careful, an 18 % increase in cars versus a 9% increase in Trucks is misleading as Utilities are also included in the truck figures. So the actual volume of cars sold versus the volume of Trucks & SUVs is probably a lot closer than researchers want to admit.

    IMO, the whole market actually grew with most sectors seeing new more fuel efficient products coming to market.
    Last edited by jpd80; 01-04-2013 at 07:08 PM.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Be careful, an 18 % increase in cars versus a 9% increase in Trucks is misleading as Utilities are also included in the truck figures. So the actual volume of cars sold versus the volume of Trucks & SUVs is probably a lot closer than researchers want to admit.

    IMO, the whole market actually grew with most sectors seeing new more fuel efficient products coming to market.
    I would have to agree with you on this, what is considered a truck and what is considered a car has been blurred. The market for body on frame SUVs is almost non existent at this point with larger SUVs staying on the body on frame design but from mid size down have generally moved to car like chassis (cross overs).

    Fuel economy has moved up because there are a lot of really good offerings that get really good fuel economy. A 1.3MPG improvement in EPA fuel economy average is close to a 2.0MPG improvement on the CAFE scale.

    At the same time there is a growing gap between trucks and cars, with cars seemingly on average growing faster then trucks/SUVs.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    I would have to agree with you on this, what is considered a truck and what is considered a car has been blurred. The market for body on frame SUVs is almost non existent at this point with larger SUVs staying on the body on frame design but from mid size down have generally moved to car like chassis (cross overs).

    Fuel economy has moved up because there are a lot of really good offerings that get really good fuel economy. A 1.3MPG improvement in EPA fuel economy average is close to a 2.0MPG improvement on the CAFE scale.

    At the same time there is a growing gap between trucks and cars, with cars seemingly on average growing faster then trucks/SUVs.
    also looking back a few years the Corolla was a high point for FE and now is regarded as one of the worst for compact "C" cars and the cars have NOT gotten smaller just better + last year I thought Ford claimed the F150 was running @ about 50% V6 power VS almost 100% before

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    I blame Obama

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    I would have to agree with you on this, what is considered a truck and what is considered a car has been blurred. The market for body on frame SUVs is almost non existent at this point with larger SUVs staying on the body on frame design but from mid size down have generally moved to car like chassis (cross overs).

    Fuel economy has moved up because there are a lot of really good offerings that get really good fuel economy. A 1.3MPG improvement in EPA fuel economy average is close to a 2.0MPG improvement on the CAFE scale.
    At the same time there is a growing gap between trucks and cars, with cars seemingly on average growing faster then trucks/SUVs.
    A lot of that growth in cars was actually a rebound due to Japanese manufacturers catching up in 2012 after significant drops the previous year due to the Tsunami.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    A lot of that growth in cars was actually a rebound due to Japanese manufacturers catching up in 2012 after significant drops the previous year due to the Tsunami.
    This is true, the big 3 Japanese automakers saw good sales growth due to a recovery from poor sales (this actually makes the market share gain on their part fictitious). Make no mistake, GM set a mile stone last year selling 1 million vehicles that get 30+MPG highway or better. With the exception of the Nox GM doesn't make a single truck/SUV that gets more then 30MPG on the highway. GM sold some 2,600,000 vehicles last year in the US so in other words 38% of what GM sold last year got more then 30MPG highway. The Cruze ended the year up 2.6% compared to last year when it finished second in its class, this year it was beat in total sales by the Ford Focus. The Malibu also finished up 3%.

    For Chevy last year in the US cars made up 837,410 of their total sales, body on frame made up 672,975 while cross overs made up 341,162.

    You can make the argument that the body on frame vehicles are all really old and thus not as competitive. Though this is true with the pick up trucks this isn't true with the full size SUVs as GM completely controls that market segment. Really on the body on frame segment where GM is losing most of its share is with the mid size and full size pick up trucks and for obvious reasons. Though you can make the argument that the Traverse is eating into some of the full size body on frame SUV sales.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    also looking back a few years the Corolla was a high point for FE and now is regarded as one of the worst for compact "C" cars and the cars have NOT gotten smaller just better + last year I thought Ford claimed the F150 was running @ about 50% V6 power VS almost 100% before
    No doubt that in the last few years fuel economy figures for sub compact and compact sedans have gone up by a large margin. I still remember when 30 was a marketable number, now you don't even mention 30MPG in that segment in an ad. Now the mid sized sedans (which are damn near full size now) are approaching 40MPG, this will no doubt further push up fuel economy mix in 2013 as some of these vehicles were new comers this year so the full year didn't see their impact. I would expect next year to result in roughly 25-26MPG EPA partly due to the full year impact of some of this years new comers but also I am expecting a healthy boost from the new Silverado/Sierra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    This is true, the big 3 Japanese automakers saw good sales growth due to a recovery from poor sales (this actually makes the market share gain on their part fictitious). Make no mistake, GM set a mile stone last year selling 1 million vehicles that get 30+MPG highway or better. With the exception of the Nox GM doesn't make a single truck/SUV that gets more then 30MPG on the highway. GM sold some 2,600,000 vehicles last year in the US so in other words 38% of what GM sold last year got more then 30MPG highway. The Cruze ended the year up 2.6% compared to last year when it finished second in its class, this year it was beat in total sales by the Ford Focus. The Malibu also finished up 3%.
    There's also a balancing act going on between sales growth, increased transaction prices and reduced incentives.....


    For Chevy last year in the US cars made up 837,410 of their total sales, body on frame made up 672,975 while cross overs made up 341,162.

    You can make the argument that the body on frame vehicles are all really old and thus not as competitive. Though this is true with the pick up trucks this isn't true with the full size SUVs as GM completely controls that market segment. Really on the body on frame segment where GM is losing most of its share is with the mid size and full size pick up trucks and for obvious reasons. Though you can make the argument that the Traverse is eating into some of the full size body on frame SUV sales.
    Changes in buyer preferences, Utilities have been steadly becoming less truck like and more comfortable like cars as auto companies seek to stay in front of buying trends. A big driver in this is that CAFE targets are slowly moving up and putting pressure on manufacturers to stay in front of limits. This is equally the main driver of change.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    This is true, the big 3 Japanese automakers saw good sales growth due to a recovery from poor sales (this actually makes the market share gain on their part fictitious). Make no mistake, GM set a mile stone last year selling 1 million vehicles that get 30+MPG highway or better. With the exception of the Nox GM doesn't make a single truck/SUV that gets more then 30MPG on the highway. GM sold some 2,600,000 vehicles last year in the US so in other words 38% of what GM sold last year got more then 30MPG highway. The Cruze ended the year up 2.6% compared to last year when it finished second in its class, this year it was beat in total sales by the Ford Focus. The Malibu also finished up 3%.

    For Chevy last year in the US cars made up 837,410 of their total sales, body on frame made up 672,975 while cross overs made up 341,162.

    You can make the argument that the body on frame vehicles are all really old and thus not as competitive. Though this is true with the pick up trucks this isn't true with the full size SUVs as GM completely controls that market segment. Really on the body on frame segment where GM is losing most of its share is with the mid size and full size pick up trucks and for obvious reasons. Though you can make the argument that the Traverse is eating into some of the full size body on frame SUV sales.
    That doesn't make their market share fictitious, it makes it a return to normal, and domestic share in 2011 fictitious.

    God Bless the Blue Bullet.

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    Re: 2012 fuel economy rises to 23.8 mpg, researchers say

    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralViscen View Post
    That doesn't make their market share fictitious, it makes it a return to normal, and domestic share in 2011 fictitious.
    It's much better to take the long term view and look at growth in terms of actual amounts produced.
    Ford in particular traded off market share in return for achieving greater internal efficiencies and scales of economy. It closed two plants in 2011 and concentrated on consolidating platforms in 2012, key product launches last year confirm this conviction and set the stage for further improvements this year.

    On the GM side, it is to their credit that GM resisted using high incentives to shift stock and increase market share, the obvious benefit in increased vehicle profitability gets lost in the fog of market share percentages..
    Last edited by jpd80; 01-05-2013 at 04:23 PM.

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