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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
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For Cadillac-philes
Power APEAL Survey: Lexus on Top, Caddy and Jag Improve
The latest J.D. Power study of which vehicles push the right buttons - the APEAL study, for automotive performance, execution and layout - finds that the Lexus brand is still the most coveted by shoppers. However, with 43 new or redesigned models on the market for 2004 (including some 2005 models), many new nameplates show up on the new survey -names like the Chrysler 300 and Chevy Malibu, Pontiac GTO and Nissan Armada. Brands like Jaguar and Cadillac saw significant improvements in their overall rankings thanks to new vehicles like the SRX and XJ series, as did Mazda and Mitsubishi. You can see more results by following the link below. The 2004 survey results are based on responses from 102,951 new-vehicle owners who were surveyed during the first 90 days of ownership. APEAL SCORES And don't miss the GTO's number 1 ranking among sporty cars. Who woulda thunk? |
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: DC Metro Area
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Entry Midsize Car
Highest Ranked: Chevrolet Malibu Hyundai Sonata Kia Optima Entry Luxury Car Highest Ranked: Chrysler 300 Series (2005) Acura TL Cadillac CTS (tie) Lexus IS 300/IS 300 SportCross (tie) Mid Luxury Car Highest Ranked: BMW 5 Series Sedan Cadillac DeVille Lincoln Town Car Sporty Car Highest Ranked: Pontiac GTO Volkswagen GTI Hyundai Tiburon (tie) Dodge SRT-4 (tie) Compact Pickup Highest Ranked: Subaru Baja GMC Canyon Ford Explorer Sport Trac Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup Highest Ranked: Cadillac Escalade EXT Nissan Titan Ford F-150 LD Heavy-Duty Full-Size Pickup Highest Ranked: Dodge Ram Pickup HD GMC Sierra HD Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty Entry SUV Highest Ranked: Chevrolet Equinox (2005) Honda Element Ford Escape (2005) Full-Size SUV Highest Ranked: Nissan Armada Toyota Sequoia GMC Yukon (Total) Premium Luxury SUV Highest Ranked: Lexus LX 470 Lexus GX 470 Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV GM had no top three entries in these categories: Compact, Premium Midsize, Fullsize, Premium Luxury, Premium Sports Car, Midsize SUV, Entry Luxury SUV, and Compact Van (Minivan). It's also interesting to note that the GTO's companions were all 4-cylinder cars. Wow, tough competition.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
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Toyota had no top three entries in these 11 categories: entry midsize car, premium midsize car, full-size car, mid-luxury car, sporty car, premium sports car, compact pick-up, Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup, Heavy-Duty Full-Size Pickup, Entry SUV, and Midsize SUV. GM's count is eight category absences. And while Toyota arguably can't be faulted for not having an entry in premium sports car and Heavy-Duty Full-Size Pickup, GM similarly cannot be faulted for not having an entry in the Premium Luxury Car category. |
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3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Red Sox Nation
Drives: '05 GTO
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I don't understand this survery. Subaru Baja as most appealing compact truck? How many of those have they sold? 600?
Entry luxury SUV and the SRX isn't even on the list (when it's selling like mad and won 2004 best lux SUV). I think the GTOs recent success is because GM found the right price (after discounts). Seriously, they need to price the '05 at $29,995 and market it as the "fastest car under 30k". Just like Dodge did w/ the Magnum. Has anyone ever seen this survey? Do they just list a bunch of car names in a group and the uninformed surveyor choose which one they like best? Or do they list some MSRP and specs along with the name? |
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2.2 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Last edited by Trendkiller : 10-15-2004 at 10:54 AM. |
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: In front of my computer
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I find it hard to believe that people in America prefer the 911 to the Vette... There is something wrong here. i all other surveys the Vette has always topped those Rankings
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6.2 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Looks like Lutz was right for bringing the GTO if only for one reason - look at Pontiac's appeal scores. this is for a company that is trying to sell its product on appeal. now, imagine how much lower that score you see would be w/out the most appealing sporty car. i think from this angle, the GTO was very necessary and has been a success. i don't know if theres a way to prove it, but i bet the GTO brought a lot of people into the dealership who ended up buying a different pontiac - maybe they didn't like the trunk size so the salesguy pushed a GTP on them. can any salesmen here verify or negate this?
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2.2 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: Sep 2004
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This is about the most worthless survey I have seen.
Compact Van Highest Ranked: Toyota Sienna Nissan Quest Mercury Monterey They can't give away Quests and Montereys. Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup Highest Ranked: Cadillac Escalade EXT Nissan Titan Ford F-150 LD Titans are have tons of quality issues and are selling way under expectations. Cadillac as top Pickup. Thats crazy talk. |
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2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Littleton, Colorado
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personally, i think its just good to see the malibu and the GTO at the top of their categories. Now if only more people took JD Powers surveys into consideration before saying the imports were "so much better"
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GMI Mod/Camaro Fanatic
Join Date: Apr 2003
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And remember that there are still a lot of cars still to come from GM, such as the Cobalt, STS, G6, and Solstice that will be in next years review.
Not to mention thoes awesome CSV's! ![]()
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Is no one else suprised that the 911 topped the Vette? In America?
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() somthing is not right with this survey. That I can tell.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
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![]() ![]() The Vette out performs the 911, yet its priced lower, offer you heritage, style and as good as an interior as any sports car. For less. Why would I buy the 911? Its also Americas favorite sports car, only the Mustang rivals it...
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3.6 Liter V6
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mess with Texas.
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These results are very strange. Whats more surprising, that the Malibu came in first, or that Kia and Hyundia came in 2nd and 3rd. I wish it shows all the cars in each catergory. Also, Vettes are awesome, but 911s kick d!ck as well. The Porsche has a much nicer interior.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I'm glad the Malibu came first, but the Sonata and Optima getting 2nd and 3rd!?! I may not like the Camry or Accord, but I do think they deserve those spots more.
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