GMI Going to Lutz's Race, Teaming With Autoline After Hours

[MrMax]

I have to agree with what's been said already. Its great to see GMI being recognized as being a legitimate news outlet with an invititation to this event.

I've been reading news on this forum much longer than I've actually been posting. Keep up the good work fellas. I spend hours on this site every week.

[Beau]

Originally Posted by HoeyHimself

Same could be said for the level of testing that the traditional publications do that your Jalopniks and Autoblogs can't. Further proof that new media only provides press releases and photos with no educated commentary, and gives the manufacturers a nice HJ just to continue receiving invites. The are too fearful that if they deliver much deserved negativity they wont be allowed to come play anymore lol But silly me, you are an editor-in-chief, you know better than I

Hoey, may I ask what publication or media outlet you are affiliated with?

[jzchev28]

who cares about hoey, hes better then you, just ask him

[jlmartin99]

GMI,

Congrats! I look forward to the coverage.

JLM

[69Firebird400]

Originally Posted by Beau

Hoey, may I ask what publication or media outlet you are affiliated with?

He works for Car and Driver.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/author/patrick-hoey/

http://www.caranddriver.com/informat...ct_us-about_us

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Jordan Brown, Christopher Champion, Patrick Hoey, Jake Holmes, Michael Paschke, Mark Quint, Rajiv Trivedi, James Whitehead

[Hunid Racks]

Originally Posted by 69Firebird400

He works for Car and Driver.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/author/patrick-hoey/

http://www.caranddriver.com/informat...ct_us-about_us

Sure it isn't Kleenex?

Must be sinking in with him, print magazines are going down the tubes. About the only reason they stay afloat are ads for tires or floormats. (or ***** pills) But he is right sort of. It's a PR stunt. Can't figure out what's pissing him off though. Must be GM isn't using that Carp and Drivel trademark word "comparo" in this stunt. GM and Lutz are getting "press" all over the boards. This buzz doesn't fly in ink. Who cares to read about this stuff when it's been over for a couple months. And that's whats going to kill all the big magazines. The little ones will survive.

[BigAls87Z28]

Alright, well Hoey Im glad that you have a great job, and I appreciate people like you, but dont look down your nose at us, really. It doesnt reflect well on C&D if you are going to have this attitude.
We have to start somewhere man...I wish you would just give us your blessings and wish us good luck.

[Gm_Tooler]

Originally Posted by HoeyHimself

We have about 30 at any given time, we were given two Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sports a few months ago. I don't think GM will even allow a ZR1 to spend the night with anyone outside the "traditional" publications. Which is probably a good thing. On Autoblog's first invite to a Ferrari first drive they wrecked a pre-production California.

I think you mistake the real publications not wanting to waste their time on uneventful events with not being invited. We were sent an invite to this press sham, and cordially declined.

Your angst is an example of what usually happens when the status quo is threatened by a changing tide.

[ARCANGEL]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Alright, well Hoey Im glad that you have a great job, and I appreciate people like you, but dont look down your nose at us, really. It doesnt reflect well on C&D if you are going to have this attitude.
We have to start somewhere man...I wish you would just give us your blessings and wish us good luck.

I like MOTORTREND way better anyway PS you guys keep up the good work

[Canyonaro]

The thing I find funny is that Hoey complains that he can't get a ZR1 to stay the night, then he also says that they were invited and turned it down. Well if you don't want to be part of a manufacturers "stunt" and invitations, then whats the point of them even bothering with your publication?

In any case, I find this an exciting chance for GMI.

[Hunid Racks]

Originally Posted by Canyonaro

The thing I find funny is that Hoey complains that he can't get a ZR1 to stay the night, then he also says that they were invited and turned it down. Well if you don't want to be part of a manufacturers "stunt" and invitations, then whats the point of them even bothering with your publication?

In any case, I find this an exciting chance for GMI.

Better question is why is he here complaining?

Carp & Drivel has ethics? Now that's a joke.

[69Firebird400]

I like Car and Driver a lot - far more than Motor Trend, for example. Also, Patrick wrote for Autosavant a few times before C/D hired him.

He has a pretty cool job there from what I've seen, but he's just starting out in his career. I believe he's what they used to call a "Road Warrior," who helps them with the tests, etc. No reason to disparage GMI or the sites participating in this event.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by nsap

GM is officially working with GMI now and treating us like media, so expect excellent coverage of things like this from us from now on!!

At last!
I've always wondered (and remember saying so on GMI a few times over the years) why GM kept refusing to understand that a community of GM enthusiasts was a good thing for them to have around, and that collaborating with them could only help.

Looks like they saw the light. Out of curiosity, did that happen only under the "New GM", or was the GMI recognition process already under way before Ch11?

[nsap]

Originally Posted by lio45

At last!
I've always wondered (and remember saying so on GMI a few times over the years) why GM kept refusing to understand that a community of GM enthusiasts was a good thing for them to have around, and that collaborating with them could only help.

Looks like they saw the light. Out of curiosity, did that happen only under the "New GM", or was the GMI recognition process already under way before Ch11?

It all started after emerging from CH 11. Having dealt with GM Communications both before and after bankruptcy, I can testify that attitudes are vastly different within that department of the organization. They no longer play the role of corporate gate-keeper, but rather they actually try to engage media and customers.

In the matter of a week they had a conference scheduled with me to discuss GMI. And they did not push it off on middle-management; a couple of those that I talked with report directly to Lutz.

This in contrast to Toyota, who threatens to sue anytime their enthusiast sites use one of their trademarked terms and tell the sites that they are "too harsh" on the company.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by nsap

It all started after emerging from CH 11. Having dealt with GM Communications both before and after bankruptcy, I can testify that attitudes are vastly different within that department of the organization. They no longer play the role of corporate gate-keeper, but rather they actually try to engage media and customers.

In the matter of a week they had a conference scheduled with me to discuss GMI. And they did not push it off on middle-management; a couple of those that I talked with report directly to Lutz.

This in contrast to Toyota, who threatens to sue anytime their enthusiast sites use one of their trademarked terms and tell the sites that they are "too harsh" on the company.

Very interesting! Thanks for the info.