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Old 09-21-2005, 12:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: GM backs hybrid vehicles despite losses

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Originally Posted by plane
Where are the high efficiency GM diesels?
Where is the high mileage version of the Cobalt?
What about an Aveo that can grab 50 miles per gallon?
You did it years ago with Suzuki. Just do it now!
Leave behind the dinosaur image and step into the 21st Century!
Give us something that is competitive with the Civic and Corolla.
It won't take two more years and it will boost GM's image significantly.

Or are we witnessing the 1970's all over again?
"Leave behind the dinosaur image and step into the 21st Century!"

where was the support for the EV1?

also, gm has more than 1 million E85 capable vehicles on the road today, almost 350 hybrid-powered buses in 22 U.S. cities, and extensive fuel cell research.

then gm had technology advances like night vision, onstar, 4-wheel steering

dinosaur image because they didn't jump on the hybrid bandwagon and start claiming outrageous mileage numbers....indeed!

fyi,
Data from independent product-testing organization indicates that hybrid cars get less than 60 percent of EPA estimates while navigating city streets. In real-world driving test, the Civic Hybrid averaged 26 mpg in the city, while the Toyota Prius averaged 35 mpg, much less than their respective EPA estimates of 47 and 60 mpg.

is a hybrid really a cost savings? example:
if u average 15000 miles a year and at $3 per gal,
30 mpg (regular car) = $1500 per year
50 mpg (hybrid) = $900 per year

seems like a big difference until u factor in the initial cost of the vehicle which a hybrid typically costs $4000 to $6000 more than their regular gas only version. that would take 6-10 years to recoup the cost.

read: http://www.mixedpower.com/modules.ph...rticle&sid=740

diesels seem to be the better bet at this point.
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