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Old 06-26-2009, 08:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: China likely to reject Hummer acquisition

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Originally Posted by Rumblebuffin View Post
Man, every time Hummer is mentioned, there is always the "9-10 mpg" CLAIM! This is getting annoying! The Hummer H2 gets that kind of mileage if the driver floors the gas pedal. Based on real-world testing, I've seen mileage claims of 12-14 for the H2 which is pretty darn good considering my mom's old 4Runner got 13 average with only 80 hp! And I DOUBT any Hummers even have a guzzler label by the EPA as well!

Would Raser Technologies still be interested in Hummer?
You can thank the media for that.

Hummer took off, and like any other GM brand with an ounce of success, the haters had to find some stereotype to attach to it.

I always though the MPG comments were lame since the Land Cruiser gets around the same mileage according to the EPA (Of course, everyone in the media seems to overlook that)

I also love the "H3 is HUGE" arguments. I took a picture a while back of a Pilot parked next to an H3. They were roughly the SAME size. Funny no one ever accuses Pilot drivers of "destroying the world"

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HUMMER failed in a free market. No free market company wants it. And the Chinese govt doesn't even want it in their country, and you think it's a capitalism/fascism thing? It's a bad company with a bad reputation. No one wants it anywhere in the world.
Umm, what?

Hummer was GM's most profitable brand for a few years. By NO means is it/was it a failure. And FWIW, there is no such thing as a free market.

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It's pretty bad when the Chinese show more concern for fuel consumption and the environment than so many Americans do. So sad.
1) That's not the real issue. It's merely propaganda so that China looks good. and 2) Who's to say that I couldn't (in the future) drive a Hummer and be VERY concerned about the environment?

Even now, some studies have shown that the OVER ALL impact of an H3 on the environment is less significant than that of the Prius. Batteries a BAD news, folks. It's takes a lot of energy to mine for the materials and then they're horrible for the environment once they're disposed of.

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BULLCRAP. Hummer this year has sold lil more than 5K, which I blame on a stale line-up of two vehicles and uncertainty of the economy. This trend is almost identical to the rest of the Large Indulgent SUV market. Normally Hummer has consistently been a damn good seller considering all the backlash of it's "presence."
While I agree with your point, the volume argument that these people try to present against Hummer is null and void. The fact of the matter is that (as long as Hummer is over it's break even point) the vehicles sell for HUGE margins. H3 buyers are essentially buying a GMC Canyon with a bunch of trim for a lot more money. And the margins were even higher with the H2 program. And considering that the H2 is still on GMT800 (GMT900 debuted with the latest round of trucks) I'm willing to bet that it costs GM next to nothing to produce it.

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