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Old 09-25-2008, 05:22 PM   #155 (permalink)
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Re: IL Corrects Volt Story: Batteries Will NOT Charge When Driving; GM Website Differ

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Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
You compare the cheapest possible Prius to the highest estimated Volt price? Sounds fair

Particularly when compounded by a very generous 5% over 10 years.

There is also the battery replacement cost. The Volt's battery is a newer, better (but more expensive) design - the main reason the Volt is more costly. But it is MUCH longer lasting than the Prius type battery, which would never last 10 years. Even if the Volt's battery didn't last ten years, a new one would be free (warranty) - Prius does not offer that after 5 years. So, factor in at least one new battery.
In addition, it erroneously assumes 50mpg for the Prius.

Should've used a range of values between 38 - 45 mpg - with proper notation on the limitations of the values chosen. Can hypermiling get it higher - yea. Can other considerations drive it lower - yea - you bet.

Its biased every way possible for the Prius against the Volt.

Here is yet another nonsensical, misleading 'Pri' sound bit


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Originally Posted by Hybridized View Post
EdSuski,

Unless further EPA testing has been done I am unaware of, the quoted 50 mpg in charge depletion mode is from the easy 06 city cycle. This is the one Prius received a 60 mpg rating on. It was also this cycle I believe that EV comsumption was measured. I expect the median real-world to be quite a bit less EV range, and a lower ICE mpg in depleted mode.
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In regards to the VOLT

With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight:
Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year
Volt ………………….. 37
Prius ………………… 228
30 MPG car ………… 380
20 MPG car ………… 570


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