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Originally Posted by fp115
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That's funny, you post they are in 12th and that I don't know what I'm talking about...that I can't count, then you post a link that says they are 10th... Wow they already picked up two spots
...GM math? You should apply in the Finance division. BTW my link are 2008 sales number yours are 2007...
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Originally Posted by fp115
1. You going to link me to a rumour?
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Nope, here is what Lutz said about the Northstar replacement
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GM vice chairman Bob Lutz admits the cancellation "was a direct result of the 35-mpg CAFE legislation."
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How many links would you like? How about this... find me ONE link that says GM is building a 32V replacement to the Northstar that is date stamped after April 2008.
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Originally Posted by fp115
2. What is XFE and all other enhancements being done to the Cobalt? Cobalt's sales continue to raise and is still a competitive vehicle. While it will be sold for another 2-3 years, the Cruze will sell along its side in less than 18 months from now.
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Those are moves in the right direction... Since the Cobalt's power train was "lacking" BUT the real issue with these cars (G5 too) is the exterior and interior styling and materials quality... Most buyers look at this first... And in this department these cars are very dated.
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3. Who said I was even talking about the Cruze? There are several cars coming that no one has seen or heard about. And yes the Cruze was sent to market quicker than it should. You seem to think the North America is the only important market. Europe and LAAM are just as important, if not more at this point.
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Any facts to back this up or are you posting rumours too?
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4. Not true again.
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This time not from Lutz but from Jim Taylor "The current STS and DTS models will be dropped at the end of their respective product cycles"
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5. Not true yet again, where do you get these numbers? Read into some of the posts on this website, one person mentioned a date and it was a good one.
They will have several new models by 2011. Of which a few are in the next few months.
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The bad news regarding#5 is built into links 4,5 & 6... or just Google "Cadillac DT7 on hold"
How about some details to back up your info? I would LOVE for all of your above info to be right and all of mine, which ALL comes from GM Senior Managers, to be 100% wrong...
There is a major STRATEGIC issue with GM's Cadillac line up... Lets say you are a 30's something CTS owner, who is doing quite well at work or in the market and in 2011 you want to upgrade to something bigger, fancier... (I'd call that person the PRIME DEMOGRAPHIC) So you are that guy, watcha gunna buy? Sadly with GM's Cadillac product placement the answer is, GS, LS, E, A8. See the problem?