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Old 09-06-2008, 01:46 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Lutz Speaks On STS/ DTS

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Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy View Post
Hyundai is now number 5 in the world... This is a fact.
Link to the numbers
Counting might not be my forte... But you need to work on your "checking" skills, they haven't been 12th for years
No clue on where they get their numbers from. But they are slightly inaccurate. Honda's and Nissan's are way off for one.

Here are the numbers you should work with:
http://oica.net/wp-content/uploads/w...nking-2007.pdf


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Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy View Post
Lets review some facts and I'll post all of the supporting links if you like... I would LOVE you to prove me wrong on each one of these BTW... If they aren't true let us all know...
1) The Northstar replacement is dead... will never happen... The 32V Northstar, once the GEM of GM power-train is now outclassed by V6's it is no longer competitive and is a lame duck, it will die with the death of the XLR and the STS... within two years the older then dirt DTS will be powered by the DI V6...
2) The Cobalt will "soldier on unchanged"... a direct quote from Lutz
3) The 2009/10/11/?? Cruze is not coming here for the next MY or the MY after that... So much for rushing...
4) There are zero plans to fix, refresh or replace the STS.
5) The replacement for the DTS, the DT7 is on hold until 2014 at the earliest
1. You going to link me to a rumour?
2. What is XFE and all other enhancements being done to the Cobalt? Cobalt's sales continue to raise and is still a competitive vehicle. While it will be sold for another 2-3 years, the Cruze will sell along its side in less than 18 months from now.
3. Who said I was even talking about the Cruze? There are several cars coming that no one has seen or heard about. And yes the Cruze was sent to market quicker than it should. You seem to think the North America is the only important market. Europe and LAAM are just as important, if not more at this point.
4. Not true again.
5. Not true yet again, where do you get these numbers? Read into some of the posts on this website, one person mentioned a date and it was a good one.
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Cadillac will have another car by 2011! FANTASTIC... take a look at the calender... its 2008, A division with "one car" for 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010... nice... They should recycle Pontiac's slogan.. "Cadillac is car" too... We could run with that until 2011 when we change it to "Cadillac is two cars"
They will have several new models by 2011. Of which a few are in the next few months.
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