View Single Post
Old 09-01-2008, 01:03 PM   #44 (permalink)
jbernie
6.0 Liter L76 V8
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Colorado, USA
Drives: 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero
Posts: 2,163
Re: GMI Exclusive: Kappa II Platform Axed From R&D

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenman923 View Post
That's it. Goodbye GM. My next car will either be a Honda Accord or a Mazda 6.
Nest thing we know you will get pissy over the Cobalt not being right and you are going to get a Range Rover. Why on earth would a 2 door coupe influence your decision to buy a 4 door family car?

Quote:
Originally Posted by camaro chris View Post
I hate when people try to use an uneasy economy as an excuse. The economy grew 3.4% last quarter!!! That's very healthy!
Without getting too sidetracked, overall growth numbers can be influenced greatly by individual sectors, ie the car market is tanking but the oil market is booming in some ways. If one offsets the other enough you can still have growth even though most of the market is in decline.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TexCarFan1980 View Post
Unbelievable! GM loses money on the Kappa twins, yet Mazda does not seem to lose money on the Miata (MX-5). Once again, Miata reigns supreme in the affordable roadster department! Glad I went with one
Keep in mind the Miata/MX5 has been around since 1989 so with the number of years in existance combined with total sales from being the dominant car in class for so long Mazda probably paid of their base costs many years ago and now just need to make the incrimental changes. Overall the body shape has barely changed, slight tweak here and there, a little extra width or length there.

GM has only had the Soltice/Sky for 2 or 3 years so no where near enough time to recoup all costs on such a small build run. To go with this they also needed stylish products to get media attention etc etc, they got people talking about GM products in a positive way (ie long delivery times/high demand) which isn't something you can just pay the media to get.

Look at the decision from a rational point of view, it is a 2 seater, with tight interior dimensions and a trunk that may hold a 12 pack of soda when the top is down. They look great but are pretty useless in many ways. With GM losing so much money per unit, it makes sense to stop a product that doesn't generate enough sales/media hype/etc now so that those costs do not influence the quality of other higher volume vehicles.

I would rather GM cut the Solstice/Sky in an effort to improve the quality/picing/features of vehicles like the Cobalt/HHR/Malibu than to let the really important products suffer.

The Solstice/Sky have served their purpose now it is time to move on and maybe later reintroduce these types of vehicles on a better platform.
__________________
Talk is cheap, sometimes it is on sale!
jbernie is online now   Reply With Quote