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Old 07-22-2008, 10:33 AM   #159 (permalink)
E. Haskell
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Re: OFFICIAL 2010 CAMARO STATS & SPECS released! 300hp / 422hp!

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Originally Posted by syr74 View Post
Please, are you seriously comparing real world curb weights to factory released numbers, the latter of which which are almost always a little optimistic at least?
Why does it matter as long as I'm comparing Ford factory numbers to GM factory numbers?

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And in this case we know from the relatively large difference between GM's G8 GT weight estimates and real world weight results for G8 GT sedans that GM is more than just a little optimistic when it comes to their large rwd cars. GM claims 3846lb for the G8 GT but, when rolled across a scale, the real number is typically around 100lb higher at least.
Are you high? GM rates the G8 GT at 3995lbs. 3946lbs could very well be true depending on the options, the scale, and added fluids.

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Even more, the real world number you are using for the Mustang is representative of a loaded coupe while the GM derived number you are using for the Camaro is based on an absolutely base offering with as few options as possible.
What real world number am I using for the Mustang? Ford list the base model Mustang GT at something like 3495lbs. Do you think that isn't the base model? Get a clue.

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The typical base Mustang coupe is about a 3500-3550lb (Ford claims 3483lb to start) car while the typical base Camaro coupe is more like going to be a 3900-3950lb car,
Well what the hell is your point? Using factory numbers or your supposed "real world" numbers, the difference in weight is still about the same.

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Still, it's no lightweight with the actual weight difference likely being close to 400lb or more rather than the 280lb you would like to suggest.
Whoa, hold your horses. Where did I say 280lbs? Maybe you didn't take the time to read what I wrote. I used the curb weight of the Mustang Bullitt. Go read it again.

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And when you take into consideration the fact that the Camaro has a smaller back seat and a smaller trunk than the Mustang the Chevy's weight isn't overly impressive.
Obviously the high points of buying a performance car.

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The 2011 Mustang GT gets the new 400+hp DOHC 5.0L V8, a six speed manual, standard 18" wheels, and improved brakes....all of which are going to add about 50lb to the mix which will still makes for a greater disparity in weight than you presented above.
Talk is cheap. Let me know when it gets here. We all know how these 2 years before the fact estimates can be way off.
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