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Old 06-22-2008, 08:09 AM   #43 (permalink)
kenman923
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Re: GMC Should Die… And be Reborn

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Originally Posted by DemonKnightDK View Post
As I recall, nissan isnt doing so well with their truck line. and If GMC has a better image than chevy, would it make more sence to just stop making chevy trucks? and sell nothing but GMC trucks? leav chevy with an S-10 size truck or G8-ST type car. the simple fact is, GMC has almost an insignifigant amount of money invested into R&D and makes a huge profit for the company.. I do belive GMC should get more into the commercial grade sector, nothing under a 3/4 Ton dually. Let chevy have the 1/2 ton market. make the HD trucks GMC only, and sell them BPG dealers. If any brand needs cut, by damnit it is saturn. every saturn could be a pontiac, open/holden would be perfect as pontiacs, the opels as the FWD performnace (mazda/nissan fighter) and Holden for the G8 and GTO range, just leave it more of a lower end with not so much luxary, give those to Buick. (buick should be the LWB Statesmen, and a few more luxuary optioned exclusives. Enclave can stay.

So, Pontiac would be

Delta II- G5 becomes Sunfire, 1.4L base 115-120HP, GT with 2.0L Non-turbo LNF 160-170, and GTP with 2.2 or 2.4L 230-240 HP or detuned Turbo 2.0L

Epislon II - Re names Grand Am, base 2.0L Non turbo LNF 160-170HP GT with a 2.2L 195-200HP and a GTP top line, with AWD and 2.0L Turbo LNF at the 260HP min.

Vibe, a pontiac version of the HHR, only styled completly different, same drive train as the EPII.

Those are the only FWD cars in the Pontiac marque. they will be the only ones wearing GTP badges.

G8 is Renamed Grand Prix, 3.0L Base engine that is rumored to be coming for the CTS, 260-275HP GT with 3.6L DI-V6 at 300HP and the GXP with the corvete Base V8 with AFM only if its needed to get around the guzzler tax

Intro the G8 Coupe as the Grand Prix Coupe, or style differently enough to be GTO/Firebird. Same specs as Grand Prix 4 door.

Only two RWD that they need.

Buick:

LWB EP-II called Regal, no base modle, starts at LS trim with Leather trimed luxary cloth standard, and leather trimmed sued for the LT trim the base engine would be 3.0L DOHC V6, optional 3.6L and then GS trim would give a GS spec suspension tune and the 3.6 in turbo form.

LWB Zeta, returns the name Park Avenue, 3.6L base engine, with a turbo 3.6 as the upscale, tuned for complete quite and smoothness. Trim names would be Park Avenue Limited and The upscale would be Ultra (super is not an option I'm sorry that is a stuipd trim name.)

Enclave will stay in current form. Its doing every thing right.

GMC would have to be transitioned to a smaller line up, most likely honestly, now that I went through the whole thing in my head, GMC would not fit in this set up. Mazda dose fine with out trucks, and toyota and honda did/does as well.. so perhaps GMC should just become a trim line for Chevy. (or at least be sold at chevy dealers only. if the B-P dealer cant sell cars that are worth it, they arent trying hard enough cause the lack of trucks dont stop any one else.

Okay, after proving my self wrong and seeing the benefits of the GMC+chevy=ChevyGMC I stand by my BP grouping. throw saturn in there to cover a few more crossover options and slightly lower run cars. Nothing that would perform better than a pontiac and nothing more luxuarious than a buick.. make them the rental fleet. (since they dont have a huge public following and the name isnt that valuable... they would be the perfect brand for the fleets...)

okay, I'm done. +1 to any one that actually reads this post
I like your idea. The only thing I would add would be the Theta SUV goes to Buick. They can cancel the GMC Terrain and the Pontiac Torrent replacement could be known as the Buick Everest.
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