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Old 06-19-2008, 09:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Biofuel battle at the UN: biofuels win

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Originally Posted by unkillsam View Post
If the Middle East and Venezula can hold us hostage for oil and China is increasing oil usage whereas it looks like US gas demand is going down, then America has every right to hold the world hostage for food.
Oh my dear God, i just cant believe you would say something like that, are you saying America is going to sink as low as those Middle Eastern countries or Venezula,

You have to know people could survive without Oil, but people cant do that without food

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So, if they want to rape us for oil why should they get our food on the cheap?
People who rape you on oil are getting richer, they can afford the food they need, people who suffer will be those who have Nothing That is inhumane and immoral



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Originally Posted by HoosierRon View Post
This is a story that is not easily summed up in a headline. The United Nations has an outfit called the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO). Yes, this is a curious name since the people on the organization do not grow food and their knowledge of agriculture is limited to taking from agricultural producers and giving to Marxist despots.

But I digress.

There recently was a big movement by the New World Orderists who clearly did not like America's recent uppity streak when it came to energy independence. They wanted to shut down America's biofuel industry. You can imagine the arguments (e.g., after all the graft payments, PEMEX does not have enough money left over from selling the U.S. oil for $139/barrel to subsidize tortilla sales).

This prompted the typical and completely unnecessary injection of facts into the discussion. As a result (along with the "fact" that America made clear any ban on biofuels would have to be funded by some other member state, such as Somalia or Togo), the FAO issued a report concluding that it would further study the issue and focus on increased agricultural output rather than banning biofuels. Of course, this leaves us with a couple of questions:
For what it's worth, biofuel is only a temporary solution to the ever growing demand for oil, the real solution would be invest more in renewable energy and again my favourite -----Fusion

PS: Being Energy independent is a nice dream for America, maybe it's time to wake up and start building Nuclear reactor again


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Originally Posted by HoosierRon View Post
If America is a soverign nation, how did the UN ever envisioning banning biofuels in the first place?
They cant, but it's just going to further damage American's image around the world


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Originally Posted by HoosierRon View Post
If the doubling of corn prices due to Chinese demand and the falling dollar does not prompt increased agricultural production, what will?
That is true, there are fears that Chinese's agricultural would decrease due to massive human migration into the urban area

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon View Post
At what point in history did people who chose to live in the desert decide they were entitled to American corn?
Well you CANNOT condemn people to starve to death just because where they live, so if their area is unsustainable would you like them to move to america? europe? anywhere? People dont get to choose where they were born, you know they are not asking for to live like Western standard, they are not asking for KFC, all they want is some corn to survive, come to think of that, maybe the cost of a KFC family bucket is enough to feed their family for a month

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