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Re: Water Powered 'Fuel Cell'
Exactly - just as there is plenty of 'alternative' ie solar etc - energy to do what needs to be done for hydrogen to work as a carrier.
Two things all the other powertrain proponents don't want to look at; 'wellhead' to wheel' for the fuel, and cradle to grave for the vehicle.
The joke is that all fuel is essentially an energy carrier that requires an enormous of amount of energy to both produce and utilize.
Utilization includes distribution ie with a conventional gasser everything involved up to and including the physical act itself of putting the fuel in the tank.
When all energy costs are accounted for - both in terms of the fuel and just as importantly in its utilization things like this and other beat the hell out of battery anything - if you want hybrid for certain duty cycle /vehicle combinations, - which is in fact desirable - do it w/o a battery ie a non battery 'hybrid'.
Just look at how the simple price of a .50 cent gallon of water gets misrepresented right here on this thread - and the 50 cents I just mentioned - thats not even counting down to what we all pay at the faucet.
One thing nobody wants to talk about is what the current oil prices and separately the current fuel prices just did to the cost of a battery and a battery hybrid.
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In regards to the VOLT
With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight:
Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year
Volt ………………….. 37
Prius ………………… 228
30 MPG car ………… 380
20 MPG car ………… 570
Dave G.
Last edited by AMERICA 123 : 06-16-2008 at 10:55 PM.
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