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paul8488 · 04-30-2008, 04:53 PM

Wait, looking further at the G6 website... there's no manual transmission available with ANY engine? Not even the 4-cylinder? And why are there 3 V6 options... one of which is only available on the convertible (3.9L)? How can GM rationalize 3 V6 choices but no manual choices? How off-target is Pontiac with this car?!? This should be challenging Altimas and Mazda6s for the performance sedan buyers dollars. How can it do that with 4-speed automatics?!? Sheesh!

Okay, looked even further:

The 3.5L SFI has 219 hp / 163 torque
The 3.9L has 222 hp / 166 torque.

The make the 3.9L an optional engine ONLY on a low-volume variant (the convertible)! How does it make ANY sense to offer this engine?!? What is the point? How can GM get some things so damn wrong? How bungled is the poor G6? I thought that simplifying available vehicle configurations lowered the cost of manufacturing... why does GM throw a random engine with almost the same output as another V6 in the G6 hardtop convertible?!? Grrrrrr! At least the 3.5L VVT has significantly more power (252 hp / 188 torque). The 3.9 is just silly, and shows that, once again, GM doesn't have a clue what to do with Pontiac.

At least they got the G5 right with the 2.0L turbo 260 hp GXP versi... oh, wait, nevermind.

Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm): 164 / 122
@ 6400 219 / 163
@ 5900
217 / 162
@ 5800 (convertible) 252 / 188
@ 6300 222 / 166
@ 5600

04-30-2008, 04:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
paul8488 Firebird Concept (the turbine one) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: France Drives: 2006 Yamaha YBR 125 1990 Citroën Ax Posts: 14,550	Re: GM announces Canadian pricing on the Pontiac G8 Wait, looking further at the G6 website... there's no manual transmission available with ANY engine? Not even the 4-cylinder? And why are there 3 V6 options... one of which is only available on the convertible (3.9L)? How can GM rationalize 3 V6 choices but no manual choices? How off-target is Pontiac with this car?!? This should be challenging Altimas and Mazda6s for the performance sedan buyers dollars. How can it do that with 4-speed automatics?!? Sheesh! Okay, looked even further: The 3.5L SFI has 219 hp / 163 torque The 3.9L has 222 hp / 166 torque. The make the 3.9L an optional engine ONLY on a low-volume variant (the convertible)! How does it make ANY sense to offer this engine?!? What is the point? How can GM get some things so damn wrong? How bungled is the poor G6? I thought that simplifying available vehicle configurations lowered the cost of manufacturing... why does GM throw a random engine with almost the same output as another V6 in the G6 hardtop convertible?!? Grrrrrr! At least the 3.5L VVT has significantly more power (252 hp / 188 torque). The 3.9 is just silly, and shows that, once again, GM doesn't have a clue what to do with Pontiac. At least they got the G5 right with the 2.0L turbo 260 hp GXP versi... oh, wait, nevermind. Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm): 164 / 122 @ 6400 219 / 163 @ 5900 217 / 162 @ 5800 (convertible) 252 / 188 @ 6300 222 / 166 @ 5600 __________________ *It's been swell, but the swelling's gone down.* Last edited by paul8488 : 04-30-2008 at 05:01 PM.