[SAngelo]

Folks the new TSX is very nice and I am sure the new TL will be gorgeous. The outside is hot and I am sure the interior will be just as nice. I am a GM fan and a American car company fan and will only buy a GM or Ford car or truck. However, Honda and Acuras seem to be well crafted inside and out and you are able to get 5 to 6 speed auto in every car in addition to a Navigation screen unlike most GM cars. I bet the 09 TSX offers everything and sells well. While I think the TSX and the TL are hot cars, I think the RL is just ok and you can see by sales.

I am a GM fan but lets face it, here are the only GM cars (non-crossovers) that are competitive right now. See below
Cadillac STS - The dash could be a little nicer (bring over SLS from China) but the rest of the car is terrific.
Cadillac CTS
Saturn Aura
Chevrolet Malibu
Pontiac G8
Saturn Astra

However, 4 of the 6 do not offer Navigation screens. Folks its the work of the cost cutters or someone asleep at the wheel.

The cars below need MCE's (mostly interiors) or need to be redesigned.
Chevrolet Impala - Needs inerior refresh including 6 speed auto and 3.6.
Chevrolet Cobalt -(The SS doesn't change this because the regular cars still only offer a 4 speed auto and needs interio modifications
Pontiac G5- Get rid of this car and only keep the Cobalt and Astra.
Pontiac G6 - Not as refined as Aura or Malibu. Needs interior mod including new center stack.
Buick Lacrosse - Getting new car, bring it sooner
Buick Lucerne - We here there will be a MCE for 2009, tell us about it GM
Cadillac DTS - Same as Lucerne
Pontiac Grand Prix - Will be dropped, thank god !!!!!

Cone on GM !!!!