[Buick61]

Originally Posted by SilverZ

Saturn is stuck - Stuck? With a brilliant lineup. Tough situation. Name another brand with such rave reviews of thier entire lineup.

Name another brand whose all-new lineup has stacks of cash on the hood.

Originally Posted by SilverZ

Cadillac still only has one decent car - CTS? SRX is now forgotten? STS may have some weaknesses, but it cannot be written off that easily.... Escalade? Duh...

SRX and Escalade are trucks. I said car. Note the difference. But if you insist on talking about the Cadillac trucks: the SRX needs some intense attention to detail, and the Escalade is out of its league. Solid rear axle? Joke of a non-folding-flat third row? Tahoe in disguise styling? Right.

Originally Posted by SilverZ

Chevrolet is an epic mess - Yes, the Impala perenially overselling its expectations... the Malibu... and the wide range of choices... hardly a mess.

Chevy completely fumbled the crossover SUV craze. They have no high-mileage subcompact or compact. They have no full-hybrid car, the full-size SUVs were a tens of millions of development dollars away from being great, the inventories for BOF SUVs and Pickups is ballooning, they have no clue what to do for an Impala encore (they can't even decide FWD or RWD yet), the Cobalt was barely competive in 2004 and even less so today...

...They don't have a clear plan to differentiate the Malibu and Impala, the Corvette is rarely marketed, so the "halo" it casts over the rest of the Chevy lineup is dubious, the Camaro is still years away, the Volt may never happen, and if it does, it's going to be in the next decade, they don't have a minivan of any value, the mid-size trucks are completely ignored by consumers, and the mid-size SUVs came out in 2001 with no clear mid-size replacement on the horizon. Somehow, the Traverse is supposed to replace the Trailblazer and the Uplander?

Originally Posted by SilverZ

Good product is the start... is there still a ways to go... yes... but you cant discount the progress made thus far... if you do, it reveals your bias or lack of competence when it comes to the product in the industry.

My bias? You see my signature, don't you? I forked over the cash for a new GM product this year.

Originally Posted by nsap

On the other hand we have a Buick that is selling as quickly as they can make them and is still selling at MSRP. And we have a CTS that continues to see extensive sales increases every month. Oh, and a Malibu that is showing initial signs of being a sales success.

No one said this transition was going to be quick or even easy. Lutz is on the record as saying that GM's product line will not be totally revitalized until 2011. There is no denying that GM still has many product problems, but there is also no denying that GM is in better shape (product-wise) now than it has been since it's former glory days.

nsap, that means ALL of GM has precisely 4 decent products: Enclave, Corvette, Malibu, and CTS. Four. Out of how many? FOUR, and people are throwing a parade.

Originally Posted by jlmartin99

Greetings Buick61 and Happy Holidays,

As a luxury buyer I wish GM well, but sales numbers are their business and of little concern to me per say. But, I care most about the product and services provided to me as customer. I can disagree with your perspective. GM has never had excuses to offer buyers that have any merit, they either have the products and services that meet the buyer’s requirements or they do not.

Cadillac is prime example from my view point of GM's transformation in product design. I did not consider Cadillac at all prior to my viewing the Cadillac Evoq concept car. I had two Lexus sedans and began my review of the BMW, Cadillac, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz and Jaguar luxury sedans with Cadillac's STS V8 winning my dollars. In my way thinking that says a lot for what Cadillac has created when I directly compared their products with the world’s very best offerings and now I include Cadillac as world class.

Additionally, when I completed my evaluation of a world class luxury sports car, only two products made it to my final purchased consideration, Cadillac's XLR and Mercedes-Benz's SL500, both superb luxury performance roadsters in my view. Cadillac's XLR won over Mercedes-Benz's SL500 for the best in class and I purchased it. Two Cadillac models I chose over the worlds best offerings after extensive evaluation, this states so very much for Cadillac and I came to the conclusion, the luxury brand models I reviewed all are world class and I see nothing but stellar products offering from all of them, but Cadillac offers something really special in its style and design.

Recently I completed my evaluation for replacement of my Cadillac STS V8 and XLR with high performance versions and the BMW M5, Cadillac's STS-V, and Mercedes-Benz's CLS55 AMG were my final three candidates for purchase. Cadillac again rose to my top preference over BMW and Mercedes-Benz. Cadillac's STS-V will be my choice and it again says so very much for Cadillac to offer a world class product that is distinctively Cadillac in this elite segment of the luxury market.

Then you add the Cadillac’s next generation CTS, providing a solid alternative to the world’s very best entry level luxury brand offerings and again you see an improving product over the first generation by a clear mark. For my tastes, I am not a SUV or Truck fan, but Cadillac’s SRX and Escalade offerings are competitive and leading in overall design within their segments. And the DTS, for those traditional luxury buyers wanting the full size personal limousine experience, Cadillac offers this model for whom many use as their best in class and best buy luxury sedan.

Since becoming a Cadillac owner, I have had a wonderful experience with both of my Cadillac cars, Cadillac and the service levels from my Cadillac Saab dealership. It has been simply and exceptional experience, a Cadillac experience.

JLM

Yes yes yes, we've all heard about your epic luxury car search in the past.

I bought a new Cadillac in 2007, so I'm not talking out of left field. I've been to the Cadillac dealerships, I went through the buying process, I've went through the service and body shop experience, and everything else that comes with being an owner.